Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 11107 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2006 18:09:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Mar 2006 18:09:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 86266 invoked by uid 500); 22 Mar 2006 18:09:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 86176 invoked by uid 500); 22 Mar 2006 18:09:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 85960 invoked by uid 99); 22 Mar 2006 18:09:15 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 10:09:15 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: 217.158.94.220 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t.p.ellison@gmail.com) Received: from [217.158.94.220] (HELO cirrus.purplecloud.com) (217.158.94.220) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 10:09:14 -0800 Received: (qmail 38317 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2006 18:08:52 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.23.21.59?) (66.78.236.255) by smtp.purplecloud.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 22 Mar 2006 18:08:51 +0000 Message-ID: <442192A6.3020009@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:08:38 +0000 From: Tim Ellison User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: sorry (was: Re: [result] Re: [vote] Acceptance of HARMONY-39 : Contribution of beans, regex and math class library code) References: <43E21900.1060508@pobox.com> <43F087F3.6000003@pobox.com> <441E3683.4030907@gmail.com> <441EDE83.3050701@pobox.com> <441EEA38.6010301@pobox.com> <441F281C.1050901@pobox.com> <441FE311.1090203@pobox.com> <44201B6B.2080405@gmail.com> <4420C866.4090600@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <4420C866.4090600@pobox.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > Tim Ellison wrote: >> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >>> With the "custom" of putting in things in o.a.h.t are we >>> implicitly discouraging good testing practice? >> >> This is laughable. > > You are going to have to explain why it's "laughable". If you are > testing a.b.c.Foo and you have to do it from a.b.c.test.FooTest, how can > you ever do implementation testing of Foo? It's not an unreasonable > question. Certainly not "laughable". I'm behind on my mail at the moment as I prepare for the Harmony talk at eclipsecon -- so I'll give you a proper answer later, but I wanted to apologize straight away if my flippant response caused offense. I hope you know I don't mean it personally. I'm passionate about the *technology* ! and it kinda spilled over ;-) I'll behave better... Regards, Tim -- Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com) IBM Java technology centre, UK.