Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 68329 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2006 11:57:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Mar 2006 11:57:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 52577 invoked by uid 500); 24 Mar 2006 11:57:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52527 invoked by uid 500); 24 Mar 2006 11:57:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52515 invoked by uid 99); 24 Mar 2006 11:57:13 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:57:13 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [216.218.185.16] (HELO bali.sjc.webweaving.org) (216.218.185.16) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:57:11 -0800 Received: from bali.sjc.webweaving.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bali.sjc.webweaving.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2OBumHM040185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:56:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mail@leosimons.com) Received: (from lsimons@localhost) by bali.sjc.webweaving.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2OBumU8040184 for harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:56:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mail@leosimons.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bali.sjc.webweaving.org: lsimons set sender to mail@leosimons.com using -f Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:56:48 -0800 From: Leo Simons To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: how to build Harmony on Windows (with minimum of commercial soft) Message-ID: <20060324115648.GA39290@bali.sjc.webweaving.org> Mail-Followup-To: Leo Simons , harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org References: <906dd82e0603220141t465107dbt@mail.gmail.com> <44211F04.9080101@gmail.com> <4421324E.1080801@pobox.com> <442139D0.2020108@gmail.com> <44214135.4020806@pobox.com> <906dd82e0603220713p692609aci@mail.gmail.com> <906dd82e0603232137u31516703v@mail.gmail.com> <4423AF4B.6040303@gmail.com> <906dd82e0603240053n4ca282a7g@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <906dd82e0603240053n4ca282a7g@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on bali.sjc.webweaving.org X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 02:53:45PM +0600, Mikhail Loenko wrote: > It's a freeware with its own license. The license prohibits using it > for creating > open source software "that requires the user of the MASM32 project to surrender > the rights they are afforded under the MASM32 licence" > http://masm32.com/mlicence.htm > I'm not a legal person but I think it is OK for experimenting. I'm not a legal person either but I think that is in many ways a completely invalid and bogus license for any kind of software (I think much the same about the microsoft EULAs I've read though). The license literally says "The MASM32 project cannot be used to create open source software" without defining what the "MASM32 project" is, what constitutes "use", what constitutes "open source software". "Cannot" is also a useless statement in this context, these kinds of statements should be along the lines of "no license is granted to". *shrug*. Just make sure that there is no dependency within any of our codebase explicitly on this "masm32 project" and that under no conditions any sort of binaries or sources from these guys enters our code repository, and then I too guess using it for experimenting is okay. But long term I'd rather see the need to pay for some software to be able to develop on windows (after all you need to pay for windows too) than to depend on some weird h@ck#0R tool. carry on, carry on :-) cheers, Leo