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From "Mikhail Loenko" <mloe...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: jira messages redirected to commits mailing list (was: [jira] Updated: (HARMONY-188) ...)
Date Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:04:04 GMT
Hi Leo

2006/3/10, Leo Simons <mail@leosimons.com>:
> Hi Mikhail!
>
> On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 10:34:46AM +0600, Mikhail Loenko wrote:
> > Actually there are important things that are to be tracked in JIRA.
>
> Err...here's that rule again:
>
>  Really Important Things MUST Go In SVN And/Or Onto The Public Mailing List

Well, that does not mean that they must not go into JIRA, right?

Geir has created category "Non-bug differences from RI" [1] and those
differences are to go there. <note> I'm not saying that discussions of the
differences are to go there </note>

Actually JIRA issues can be splitted this way: obvious stuff (like wrong method
signature or wrong constant value in classlib) and non-obvious stuff (someone
can disagree with the issue once it is created).

Normally obvious stuff is interesting for the person opening the issue and
a committer applying a patch. Non-obvious stuff is interesting for other
people also.

What I suggest is to separate those two kind of issues. For example, we
can try to separate Trivial issues from other ones.

Thanks,
Mikhail

[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/200602.mbox/%3c43FC644D.8060202@pobox.com%3e


>
> For example, with the accepting of external contributions, we receive
> the files in jira, but the vote to accept them is on the mailing list, and the
> forms and paperwork go on paper and in SVN, and the code ends up in SVN too.
>
> > For example, questions of being non-compatible with either RI or spec.
>
> Questions and their answers should also not go into jira. The ASF supports the
> use of jira as an issue/bug tracker, but it is not supposed to be a
> "communication hub". This isn't a "best practice", but a *hard rule* that's
> there because of oversight / data integrity / openness / transparancy needs.
>
> > And as far as the mail traffic on the dev-list is doubling every month [1]
> > it would be great to make it possible to separate those JIRA issues
> > that describe minor bugs/fixes from these ones that have conceptual value.
> >
> > Is it possible?
>
> Sure! the sky is the limit. If you take a stroll across the ASF jira, you'll
> see how different projects have set this up differently. Its possible to have
> different notification schemes for different components, different projects
> (eg HARMONY, HARMONY-VM, HARMONY-CLASSLIB), different priority levels, custom
> priority levels, and more (the documentation for jira at the atlassian website
> is public I think and gives a good idea of the options). Its possible to have
> a seperate mailing list, or even multiple ones.
>
> I think geir, me, dims all have admin privs for jira, I think tim might've
> those too. The hard part is everyone agreeing on how things should be set up,
> the actual administration work to change the config is just a few minutes.
>
> cheers,
>
> Leo
>

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