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From Geir Magnusson Jr <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: Download msvcr71.dll rather than distributing it
Date Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:06:36 GMT

Paulex Yang wrote:
> I'm not a lawyer, but as to my knowledge, many commercial as well as 
> open source software distribution includes msvcr71.dll, say, wincvs, 
> ImageMagick, VMWare, OpenOffice, etc(just a few cases).

Right, but included w/ an app.

> And the vctoolkit2003's EULA says:
> "2.2 Redistributable Code-General. Microsoft grants you a nonexclusive, 
> royalty-free right to reproduce and distribute the object code form of 
> any portion of the Software listed in REDIST.TXT ("Redistributable 
> Code"). For general redistribution requirements for Redistributable 
> Code, see Sectionļ£µ3.1, below. "
> but its redist.txt doesn't list any files! it says:
> "There are no redistributable files (i.e., dll's/cab's, etc.) included 
> with the Visual C++ Toolkit 2003. Object library files included with the 
> Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 (e.g. the C Runtime Library static libraries 
> designated with the suffix ".lib") will be automatically linked to your 
> program when they are compiled by the Visual C++ compiler and linker. 
> Inclusion of these static libraries as compiled into your program is 
> acceptable; you may not, however, redistribute the static libraries 
> standalone - on their own."
> While MSDN also said files in redist.txt is redistributable, the 
> VS.net's redist.txt DOES include msvcr71.dll. Does it mean only 
> VisualStudio user can redistribute it?

Heh.  Good question.  My concern is that it's not *indepdentently* 
redistributable (just like sun's binaries like javamail aren't). 
However I don't know, and asked my question to motivate someone to take 
a look.

Worst case, we point to where people can go get it and make that step 

I assume anyone w/ a modern MSFT toolchain would already have it?


> [1] 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vccore/html/vcconalistofredistributablefiles.asp

> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>> This gives me the heebie-jeebies. What is the license for that dll? 
>> Are people allowed to re-distribute independent of an app that uses it?
>> Where else can people get it?
>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>> Ok, if somebody prefers a different source send a note.
>>> Regards,
>>> Tim
>>> Mark Hindess wrote:
>>>> I failed to find it on microsoft.com too. Though I'd be happy to be 
>>>> corrected.
>>>> It was the first hit on the google search I did - or the first that
>>>> didn't use javascript and popups to serve the download. It's trivial
>>>> to change if you find a better source.
>>>> I was careful to make sure the file it served had the md5sum of the
>>>> file in svn. I also checked the sha1sum just to be a little more
>>>> confident of its validity.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Mark.
>>>> On 3/30/06, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Is "www.dlldump.com" our chosen supplier? I've never heard of them.
>>>>> I browsed around and didn't see it anywhere on the microsoft.com
>>>>> website. I know we are checking the MD5 to ensure we get the right
>>>>> thing; any idea about reliability etc.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> Mark Hindess (JIRA) wrote:
>>>>>> download msvcr71.dll rather than distributing it
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Key: HARMONY-282
>>>>>> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-282
>>>>>> Project: Harmony
>>>>>> Type: Improvement
>>>>>> Components: Classlib
>>>>>> Reporter: Mark Hindess
>>>>>> Priority: Trivial
>>>>>> Tim suggested we should download the msvcr71.dll rather than 
>>>>>> distributing it.
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com)
>>>>> IBM Java technology centre, UK.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Mark Hindess <mark.hindess@googlemail.com>
>>>> IBM Java Technology Centre, UK.

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