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From Tim Ellison <t.p.elli...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Download msvcr71.dll rather than distributing it
Date Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:11:25 GMT
The Microsoft VisualStudio redist.txt allows it to be redistributed,

"The following list reflects all files available with Microsoft Visual
Studio for redistribution;...

and the MSDN website [1] says:

"An application should use and redistribute msvcr71.dll, and it should
avoid placing a copy or using an existing copy of msvcr71.dll in the
system directory. Instead, the application should keep a copy of
msvcr71.dll in its application directory with the program executable."

So is the question, can _anyone_ (i.e. "dlldump.com") redistribute this



Paulex Yang wrote:
> I'm not a lawyer, but as to my knowledge, many commercial as well as
> open source software distribution includes msvcr71.dll, say, wincvs,
> ImageMagick, VMWare, OpenOffice, etc(just a few cases).
> And the vctoolkit2003's EULA says:
> "2.2 Redistributable Code-General. Microsoft grants you a nonexclusive,
> royalty-free right to reproduce and distribute the object code form of
> any portion of the Software listed in REDIST.TXT ("Redistributable
> Code"). For general redistribution requirements for Redistributable
> Code, see Sectionļ£µ3.1, below. "
> but its redist.txt doesn't list any files! it says:
> "There are no redistributable files (i.e., dll's/cab's, etc.) included
> with the Visual C++ Toolkit 2003. Object library files included with the
> Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 (e.g. the C Runtime Library static libraries
> designated with the suffix ".lib") will be automatically linked to your
> program when they are compiled by the Visual C++ compiler and linker.
> Inclusion of these static libraries as compiled into your program is
> acceptable; you may not, however, redistribute the static libraries
> standalone - on their own."
> While MSDN also said files in redist.txt is redistributable, the
> VS.net's redist.txt DOES include msvcr71.dll. Does it mean only
> VisualStudio user can redistribute it?
> [1]
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vccore/html/vcconalistofredistributablefiles.asp
> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>> This gives me the heebie-jeebies. What is the license for that dll?
>> Are people allowed to re-distribute independent of an app that uses it?
>> Where else can people get it?
>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>> Ok, if somebody prefers a different source send a note.
>>> Regards,
>>> Tim
>>> Mark Hindess wrote:
>>>> I failed to find it on microsoft.com too. Though I'd be happy to be
>>>> corrected.
>>>> It was the first hit on the google search I did - or the first that
>>>> didn't use javascript and popups to serve the download. It's trivial
>>>> to change if you find a better source.
>>>> I was careful to make sure the file it served had the md5sum of the
>>>> file in svn. I also checked the sha1sum just to be a little more
>>>> confident of its validity.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Mark.
>>>> On 3/30/06, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Is "www.dlldump.com" our chosen supplier? I've never heard of them.
>>>>> I browsed around and didn't see it anywhere on the microsoft.com
>>>>> website. I know we are checking the MD5 to ensure we get the right
>>>>> thing; any idea about reliability etc.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> Mark Hindess (JIRA) wrote:
>>>>>> download msvcr71.dll rather than distributing it
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Key: HARMONY-282
>>>>>> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-282
>>>>>> Project: Harmony
>>>>>> Type: Improvement
>>>>>> Components: Classlib
>>>>>> Reporter: Mark Hindess
>>>>>> Priority: Trivial
>>>>>> Tim suggested we should download the msvcr71.dll rather than
>>>>>> distributing it.
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com)
>>>>> IBM Java technology centre, UK.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Mark Hindess <mark.hindess@googlemail.com>
>>>> IBM Java Technology Centre, UK.


Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com)
IBM Java technology centre, UK.

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