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From Geir Magnusson Jr <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: Contributing SableVM?
Date Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:27:18 GMT

Etienne Gagnon wrote:
> Hi Geir,
>> b) hopefully an ICLA from each contributor
> The ICLA rules are less restrictive than the Apache License rules:
> 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions of
>    this Agreement, You hereby grant to the Foundation and to
>    recipients of software distributed by the Foundation a perpetual,
>    worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
>    copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of,
>    publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute Your
>    Contributions and such derivative works.
> Unless I missed something, this not force the ASF to abide by the Apache
> License 2.0 rules.  So, for example, the ASF could sublicense
> derivatives of our work under any license it wants, without even
> acknowledging our contribution in a NOTICE file.

Yes.  The idea is that we trust the ASF to do the Right Thing.  When the 
ASF doesn't do the Right Thing, it will be a hollow shell as all of us 
would leave.

Also, "we" are the ASF - there is no "them".

> Most SableVM authors do not agree to allow derivative works not to
> clearly aknowledge their contribution.  This is our only real
> retribution for the work we contribute.
> I understand that it is critical, for the ASF, to design new licenses,
> but rule "2." above seems too permissive, at first sight.
> Have I missed something?



> Etienne

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