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From Geir Magnusson Jr <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: [result] Re: [vote] Acceptance of HARMONY-39 : Contribution of beans, regex and math class library code
Date Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:27:13 GMT
Good unit tests are going to be testing things that are package 
protected.  You can't do that if you aren't in the same package 
(obviously).  With the "custom" of putting in things in o.a.h.t are we 
implicitly discouraging good testing practice?  Given that this 
o.a.h.t.* pattern comes from Eclipse-land, how do they do it?  I 
couldn't imagine that the Eclipse tests don't test package protected things.

I've been short of Round Tuits lately, but I still would like to 
investigate a test harness that helps us by mitigating the security 


Mark Hindess wrote:
> I thought the crucial thing was that tests should be in a separate
> namespace not in the namespace of the package they are testing (at
> least not unless it was absolutely necessary).
> -Mark.
> On 3/20/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <geir@pobox.com> wrote:
>> I'm doing it now.
>> I need to go back and stare at our discussion on test setup, because I'm
>>   still not a raving fan of o.a.h.test....
>> geir
>> Mark Hindess wrote:
>>> Don't worry, you'd have to be less subtle for me to take something as criticism.
>>> I've had an attempt at moving beans out - HARMONY-218.  If that gets
>>> committed I'll do the other too.
>>> -Mark.
>>> On 3/20/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <geir@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> That wasn't a criticism, btw.  It seemed like a natural thing to do when
>>>> I first saw it, but when I was actually dealing w/ it, my opinion changed.
>>>> Yah, split away!  That was going to be my next question, how to split..
>>>> geir
>>>> Mark Hindess wrote:
>>>>> Fair enough.
>>>>> Mind if I redo the script/patch to split the three modules to match
>>>>> the structure of the others?  That is, into separate modules/math,
>>>>> modules/beans, modules/regex directories?
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>  Mark.
>>>>> On 3/20/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <geir@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I just committed.  There was some delay because of a missing CCLA.
>>>>>> I've committed the code as is from the JIRA.  I'm going to do some
>>>>>> cleanup and then look at hte patches to integrate.
>>>>>> Looking at this (and 88?) I think that this "add patches" approach
is a
>>>>>> bad one, because it complicates what this JIRA is now.
>>>>>> In the future, I think we should just create new JIRA's for add-ons
>>>>>> the add-on contributor isn't the contributor of the original JIRA)
>>>>>> just link them so they are easy to keep track of...
>>>>>> Richard Liang wrote:
>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>>>>>>> Despite a touch of trouble with the packaging of the contribution,
>>>>>>>> passed with flying colors ( or 'colours', for our UK friends...)
>>>>>>>> +1 from :
>>>>>>>> Geir
>>>>>>>> Stefano
>>>>>>>> Dims
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>> Leo
>>>>>>>> In it comes....
>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have received the ACQs and the BCC for Harmony-39,
so I can assert
>>>>>>>>> that the critical provenance paperwork is in order (although
not in
>>>>>>>>> SVN yet).
>>>>>>>>> Please vote to accept or reject this codebase into the
Apache Harmony
>>>>>>>>> class library :
>>>>>>>>> [ ] + 1 Accept
>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 Reject  (provide reason below
>>>>>>>>> Lets let this run 3 days unless a) someone states they
need more time
>>>>>>>>> or b) we get all committer votes before then.
>>>>>>>>> Go...
>>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>> Hello Geir,
>>>>>>> As this contribution has been accepted for a long time, I'm wondering
>>>>>>> when the source code could be put into Harmony SVN.
>>>>>>> I'm working on the implementation of java.text.DecimalFormat
which has
>>>>>>> enhancements on BigDecimal and BigInteger support. Now I just
use this
>>>>>>> contribution as external jars in Eclipse.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mark Hindess <mark.hindess@googlemail.com>
>>>>> IBM Java Technology Centre, UK.
>>> --
>>> Mark Hindess <mark.hindess@googlemail.com>
>>> IBM Java Technology Centre, UK.
> --
> Mark Hindess <mark.hindess@googlemail.com>
> IBM Java Technology Centre, UK.

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