Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 8405 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2006 14:20:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 11 Feb 2006 14:20:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 48283 invoked by uid 500); 11 Feb 2006 14:20:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48226 invoked by uid 500); 11 Feb 2006 14:20:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48215 invoked by uid 99); 11 Feb 2006 14:20:04 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 06:20:03 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [212.39.12.10] (HELO deck1210.hostdeck.com) (212.39.12.10) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 06:20:02 -0800 Received: (qmail 32592 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2006 15:19:39 +0100 Received: from host70-41.pool82106.interbusiness.it (HELO fatti.com) (82.106.41.70) by deck1210.hostdeck.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2006 15:19:39 +0100 Message-ID: <43EDF27A.6060202@fatti.com> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:19:38 +0100 From: Enrico Migliore Reply-To: enrico.migliore@fatti.com Organization: - User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Using APR for Harmony's native link to the OS? References: <20060210135919.26633.qmail@minotaur.apache.org> <43ECA917.3020203@apache.org> <43ECCA79.8070109@fatti.com> <43ECF7E8.4010800@apache.org> <43EDB360.30700@fatti.com> <43EDE3F0.6020809@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <43EDE3F0.6020809@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mladen Turk wrote: > Enrico Migliore wrote: > >> >> I took a look at the documentation of the APR project: > > > 1. APR doesn't cover is the Windowing subsystem > > Sure, APR is something POSIX is meant to be. > > > 2. An APR port to the ARM embedded platform doesn't exist > > If someone wishes to build a GNU/Classpath like system > under Apache license, with APR instead POSIX as OS > abstraction layer (or any other), will you object? > > I think this is the ultimate question of the entire thread. > Seems to me that when ever someone says something in the > direction of replacing GNU/Classpath with something else, > the voices are up. > > From ground up I'm opposed to this artificial synergy of > ASF and GNU code, and until it gets resolved the Harmony > project will never become a true ASF project. > > The reason is pretty simple, we are two different communities, > and just like in the real world, it's hard to merge the > things with different views. > > So at the end of the day, you have a simple question: > Is Harmony a way to give a JVM to the GNU/Classpath, > or is a Harmony a project that will some day have option > to choose between different 'classpath' libraries. > If it's the first, the entire thing has nothing to do > with ASF, and if it's a second, then I don't understand why > all the fuzz about a different perspective proposals. > > > Regards, > Mladen. > Hi Mladen, I'm not a fan of GNU/Classpath, in fact, after reading the documentation of the APR project and understood the potential of it, I've changed my mind, as said in my previous thread. As far as the windowing system is concerned, I just pointed out that if the APR had the interface to the native windowing system, it would save quite a bit of work to us. Enrico