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From Stuart Ballard <stuart.a.ball...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: newbie to project-where to start from
Date Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:08:50 GMT
Geir Magnusson Jr <geir <at> pobox.com> writes:
> I think we should certainly be using Muave for testing.  However, that 
> doesn't remove the need for our own unit tests to be testing 
> implementation internals.

Completely agree. Tests of implementation internals don't belong in Mauve of
course.

I guess the question is whether, when a Harmony contributor wants to write a
test for documented, public, specified API functionality, should that test go in
Mauve instead of Harmony's own test framework?

Obviously I'd argue that it should, as then it benefits all implementations, not
just Harmony. Plus if Harmony contributors are running Mauve regularly, they're
getting the benefits of Mauve tests contributed by developers of other
implementations too.

(I've watched people go down this road before: I was following several projects
with independent class library implementations years before there was any
prospect of them merging into Classpath as they've now done. Even when there was
no cooperation on the library code, everybody seemed to agree it was in their
best interests to collaborate on the test suite...)

If it *is* recommended for Harmony contributors to put such tests into Mauve,
that recommendation probably ought to be mentioned in answer to questions like
the one that I replied to; the original poster didn't say whether their tests
were going to be of implementation internals or not...

> Would you like to help us get it working in our build/test framework?

I'm afraid you're asking the wrong person: I can't get Mauve working at all...

Stuart.


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