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From Stefano Mazzocchi <stef...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Full disclosure
Date Fri, 02 Dec 2005 15:24:10 GMT
Anthony Green wrote:

> But what would be the point of a relicensing effort like this?  AFAICT,
> many people here show no interest in collaborating on a single free
> class library project.

uh? nobody ever mentioned that harmony was about "a single free class 
library project".

I, personally, don't give a damn about that: the ASF will not dual 
license its code under a *GPL license (also because it can't! not being 
the copyright holder!) and the FSF will not dual license its code under 
an apache license. Period. So, as much as I don't insult the GNU 
Classpath project by asking them to dual-license under terms that go 
against their nature, don't be surprised if people react defensively 
when you ask such a thing here.

Apache Harmony is a project that aims about certifying a J2SE 
implementation that is licensed (as a whole) under terms that are 
considered acceptable by its community.

As I mentioned, LGPL licensing terms have never be considered 
"acceptable", but this is scheduled to change in the near future.

Once this is changed, the GPL + Classpath exception will be next to be 

Personally, I'm not advocating for Classpath to change their license: 
I've stopped caring about those things. As I said, at times it's easier 
to rewrite the code or to shop around for interested commercial entities 
for donations.

As the guy who started the Gump runs against Kaffe, I am interested in 
helping out all the efforts that gravitate around a free/open java 
implementation.... but I have to do it in Apache (or we won't have 
access to the TCK!) and therefore I have to play by the social rules 
that exist here.

In such an ecosystem, having Classpath licensed under LGPL would make it 
much easier for Harmony to start merging pieces.

If not, we'll have to create yet another licensing bridge and it will 
take some more time, that's all.


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