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From Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ASF has been shipping GPL exception stuff for years and still is ;)
Date Mon, 05 Dec 2005 03:00:40 GMT
Dalibor,

This kind of legal gymnastics is exactly why people prefer not to deal
with GPL. One is never sure which loophole will be used to shutdown a
project or stop a binary distribution. A quick resolution *IF* we see
a problem would be to make the HTTPD project stop doing binary
distributions. So you are just reducing choice. Am actually glad that
HTTPD is not using any other code under GPL+Exception other than the
GCC bits in the distribution so we don't have to worry about the
effects on a source distrubution. This will definitely *NOT* be the
case if a large body of code such as Classpath is part of the project.
Personally, i think now i am more convinced that Apache should not
take that risk till GPLv3 comes out and out LGPL stuff works out.

-- dims

On 12/4/05, Dalibor Topic <robilad@kaffe.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 01:52:32PM -0600, Archie Cobbs wrote:
> >
> > Conclusion being: if it's the merely legality that concerns ASF,
> > then they should already be happy and this whole problem and
> > discussion can go away (wouldn't that be nice :-)
>
> Thanks for summing it up so nicely, Archie ;)
>
> With the legality argument out of the way, someone should make
> sure that the board ratifies the existing practice of Apache projects
> shipping GPL+linking exception code. I believe I've provided the
> people who care about making the use of GNU Classpath's code
> possible with the requisite means to prove the legality of the
> license type decisively, and I assume this will be sufficient for the
> approval of the license on GNU Classpath as well. It is undeniable
> that ASF has been shipping all that code for years without any harm,
> so that should put an end to very vague doubts about the
> legality of the GPL+licensing exception construct.
>
> Unless there are any objections, and noone else comes forth,
> I'll sum up the discussion and make sure that Cliff brings it before
> license-discuss.
>
> I could also make a flash demo showing how to prove that the Apache
> Software Foundation is indeed shipping GPL+linking exception licensed
> bits in there, if that would help cut any armchair lawyering short.
>
> cheers,
> dalibor topic
>
>


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