On Nov 9, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

>
> On Nov 9, 2005, at 6:17 AM, Mark Wielaard wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 16:13 +0000, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm delighted to be able to make a code contribution to the Harmony
>>>> project on behalf of IBM.
>>>
>>> Let's the harmonization process begin :-)
>>
>> Right! I have been thinking on how to move forward with this. And  
>> I am
>> excited to see some core class library code since that is where my
>> expertise is. Obviously we should be able to extend this easily with
>> parts of the GNU Classpath library like awt, beans, corba, crypto,
>> swing, sql, most of javax, imageio, naming, etc and the 1.5  
>> additions we
>> have plus the generic classes from the classpath-generics branch.  
>> At the
>> same time we can merge the kernel classes to get the best of both
>> implementations. But it seems we still have the original roadblock to
>> harmony cooperation, the incompatible licenses. Since this  
>> contribution
>> is marked as ASLv2 which is incompatible with GPLv2 so we won't be  
>> able
>> to share this easily. So lets try to get that away now.
>>
>> Would IBM be willing to assign this code to the FSF for inclusion  
>> in GNU
>> Classpath or contribute it under a GPL-compatible license like MIT/X,
>> W3C, etc. so that it can be mixed and merged with the GNU  
>> Classpath core
>> library and used in larger GPL-compatible works like gcj, kaffe, etc?
>
> Mark, speaking with my IBM hat on, I will say that as I promised  
> yesterday to you, I'll certainly get a discussion started inside  
> IBM, but can't answer this now.
>
> Also, please understand that sometimes things can move very slowly.

And to really put a fine point on this, I work for IBM, work in  
things like this for IBM, represent our community interests inside  
IBM and IBMs interests here (to some degree),  but I don't speak for  
or represent IBM in general, or on this matter specifically.

geir


>
> geir
>
>>
>> That would be really fun. I remember when I joined the GNU Classpath
>> group and we merged the libgcj and classpath code bases. That was  
>> really
>> a good way to lift up both projects since you can compare ideas  
>> and code
>> to create something that is bigger then the original things. And you
>> will always learn things from trying to merge two similar but  
>> slightly
>> different code bases. I am looking forward to going through each  
>> of the
>> core packages to see which implementation is best if we can get  
>> the this
>> license issue out of the way.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Mark
>>
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> Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
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>

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