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(195.212.29.83) by smtp.purplecloud.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 31 Oct 2005 17:27:38 +0000 Message-ID: <43665409.9020803@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:27:37 +0000 From: Tim Ellison User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Leadership and direction References: <20051031091444.GC32031@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20051031091444.GC32031@localhost.localdomain> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N +1, "enthusiastically" As I was passing through Toronto recently I noticed a large Harmony logo from these guys: http://www.harmonyairways.com/index.shtml ...have to bear that in mind as the preferred airlne for the first Harmony user conference ;-) Regards, Tim Leo Simons wrote: > Hi gang! > > The "open" in "open source" refers to more than the source code. > > I saw a thread a while back where Geir was jokingly referred to as > a "leader", "boss", etc. I understand it was just a joke but I figured > I'd write some more words about this as some people reading along might > not fully understand the joke :-) > > When we say "we're all peers here", we take that *very* seriously, > as in, the reverse of that situation would be a *big* problem. Its > just that some people have, through merit (and filling out all the > right forms :-)), gained committer privileges (and responsibilities!), > whereas others have not (yet!). > > Since Geir is one of the people who has been working hard on all > this since before the beginning and is consistently putting a lot of > time into harmony right now, he's been very "visible". But all the people > around here are free to step up to help fulfill any or all of the > tasks he's been taking care of. Trust me, Geir would really really love > it if someone handled some of the tasks he's been taking care of :-) > > Similarly, it seems we're getting a lot of interest and work on the > BootJVM stuff now (wee! Cool! Actual code :-)), and since Dan wrote > that originally, you'll see him answer a lot of the questions, enter > a lot of the discussions, etc. Just a very natural result of him > knowing a lot about the code and the decisions made while writing it > initially. However, its no longer "his" code, its "our" code, and anyone > is at any time welcome to do exactly the same, or a lot more. Like > contribute another JVM implementation. We (which by virtue of you > reading this includes you!) can decide where to go. > > Final example. I know little about C or C++ and try to know as little > as possible about legal stuff, so I've mostly been talking about > "community" bits here and writing some emails every now and then. > That's a very "immaterial" contribution and no-one is sure it always > matters even one little bit. But I'm free to talk about it anyway, just > as everyone else is. > > We have set ourselves this goal of a compliant J2SE implementation, > and if you feel there is some way that you could help or contribute, > you don't have to "ask" first (well perhaps you need to ask your > day job boss :-)), you just get started (hacking code, fixing bugs, > sending in patches, fixing spelling mistakes, translating or writing > documentation, participating in design discussion, posting interesting > links, shouting enthusiastic "+1"s when someone has a proposal you > strongly agree with, providing links to interesting bits of stuff > related to "our cause", reviewing patches and suggesting better ways > to write the same patch, writing emails such as this one, getting a > lawyer to review our contribution policies and getting back with > feedback about it, writing a weekly newsletter, designing a logo, > writing a wiki page with fun puns on the word "harmony", making the > website look more pretty, taking pictures or video footage of real > life "harmony" events and making them available, etc etc etc etc)! > > > Welcome to Apache! :-) > > > - LSD > -- Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com) IBM Java technology centre, UK.