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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Code into SVN, not the WIKI (Re: [arch] VMCore / Component Model)
Date Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:50:09 GMT

On Sep 20, 2005, at 9:29 AM, acoliver@apache.org wrote:

> Dude,
> It's catch 22.  There weren't any legitimate committers (because  
> there was no initial code base) at the beginning of the project to  
> "vote". Because of this, there needs to be a lower barrier of entry  
> than a formal procedure.

Having a "barrier to entry" isn't in conflict with a "formal  
procedure".  We are going to have a formal procedure because the code  
pedigree is critical for this project.

> Otherwise I might suggest a segment of the willing go off and  
> create an initial codebase in a CVS/SVN somewhere that is more open  
> and then submit it.  For a project with no code this seems a bit  
> officious.  Let the "likely" people in (Mladen for instance is an  
> apache committer in good standing who has plans to do something)  
> and then let Darwin sort them out.  Then they can vote in  
> committers in the normal way.  The project needs code!!!  Rather  
> than being officious, the goal should be to facillitate every means  
> possible to make that happen.  It will be messy and there will be  
> serveral misdirections but thats what a repository is for.  Forward  
> momentum.

This is clearly a position we all believe in - we need code.  I'll  
remark in another summary message.


> -Andy
> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>> On Sep 20, 2005, at 9:11 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>>> Geir,
>>> When folks have sent in their ACQ/ICLA, we should give them direct
>>> commit access (after maybe a VOTE on the ppmc list). I really don't
>>> like putting so many road blocks, what exactly are we waiting for?
>> What roadblocks are you talking about?
>> We certainly want a vote and not just make everyone who fills in   
>> paperwork a committer.  I don't think we need a high bar to  
>> entry,  but at least a patch, maybe?  This is a good subject to  
>> discuss.
>> *Any* bulk contribution - i.e. code created outside of the day to  
>> day  flow of the project by committers should come into a JIRA so  
>> the  contribution can be inspected and understood to be a clearly   
>> delineated contribution.  We will be keeping a record of all such   
>> contributions.
>> geir
>>>> Assuming that all is well with the ACQ, this means that we can  
>>>> accept
>>>> the code you have put in the WIKI into SVN for people to start
>>>> playing with.  You will have to add the code to a JIRA entry for  
>>>> the
>>>> project, so you can definitively offer it under the Apache license.
>>> Thanks,
>>> dims
> -- 
> Andrew C. Oliver
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