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From "Jeffrey McManigal" <jeffrey_mcmani...@hotmail.com>
Subject Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Date Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:10:34 GMT
I've emailed you my suggestions, hope it helps.

Jeffrey_McManigal@hotmail.com<mailto:Jeffrey_McManigal@hotmail.com>
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: usman bashir<mailto:gripusa@gmail.com> 
  To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<mailto:harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org> 
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 00:29
  Subject: Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference


  Hi !
   i also posted this document on 
   http://usmanbashir.blogspot.com/<http://usmanbashir.blogspot.com/>
   regards, 
  usman

   On 8/11/05, usman bashir <gripusa@gmail.com<mailto:gripusa@gmail.com>> wrote:

  > 
  > Hi jeff!
  >  though it is not particularly related with harmony project activities, 
  > actually it was a document about the introduction of harmony here in 
  > pakistan. I posted it over the mailing list so that every one can review it 
  > and correct me if i had missed some thing or had gone in wrong direction. 
  >  i would appriciate the help of every one. certainly i am hoping to get 
  > good support for harmony after the presentation inshallah.
  >  i am again posting the link where i have posted for you people to review.
  >  http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa/<http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa/>
  >  urgent response is highly appriciated as i have one more day now to 
  > finalize it.
  > regards,
  > usman
  >  On 8/11/05, Jeffrey McManigal <jeffrey_mcmanigal@hotmail.com<mailto:jeffrey_mcmanigal@hotmail.com>>
wrote: 
  > > 
  > > Hi,
  > > 
  > > I've been following the Harmony project for some time now. Basically 
  > > I've been looking for some way to contribute. Do I under the request below 
  > > that you want someone to proof read this document? If so, where do you want 
  > > the review posted? Thanks 
  > > 
  > > Jeff McManigal
  > > I/S Engineer
  > > 
  > > Jeffrey_McManigal@hotmail.com<mailto:Jeffrey_McManigal@hotmail.com<mailto:Jeffrey_McManigal@hotmail.com<mailto:Jeffrey_McManigal@hotmail.com>>

  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: usman bashir<mailto:gripusa@gmail.com<mailto:gripusa@gmail.com>>
  > > To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<mailto<mailto:harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<mailto>:

  > > harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<mailto:harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org>>
  > > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 08:09
  > > Subject: Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Hi!
  > > i tried to attach it , but it was undelivered so please look at the 
  > > following address
  > > http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa<http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa><
  > > http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa<http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa>>
  > > regards, 
  > > usman
  > > 
  > > On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org>>>

  > > wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Wherever you want, so we can get to it and look at it. 
  > > >
  > > > geir
  > > >
  > > > On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, usman bashir wrote:
  > > >
  > > > > :)
  > > > > well it is not hosted on any site yet, so how can i post the link,
  > > > > though i
  > > > > have few commercial sites in my under, but surelly i do not like to

  > > > > post
  > > > > them there.
  > > > > can i post it to my blog then ??
  > > > >
  > > > > On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org>>>

  > > wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > >>
  > > > >> Well, how about posting a link to the document here?
  > > > >>
  > > > >> On Aug 10, 2005, at 7:18 AM, usman bashir wrote:
  > > > >>
  > > > >>
  > > > >>> Hi every one!
  > > > >>> i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted
for 
  > > the
  > > > >>> presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan. 
  > > > >>> I would like to invite every one to review this document and
  > > > >>> suggest me
  > > > >>> some changes if required.
  > > > >>> i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to

  > > > >>> others, so
  > > > >>> they can view it.
  > > > >>> at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline
  > > > >>> from you
  > > > >>> people.
  > > > >>> 
  > > > >>> On 7/8/05, usman bashir <gripusa@gmail.com<mailto<mailto:gripusa@gmail.com<mailto>:
  > > gripusa@gmail.com<mailto:gripusa@gmail.com>>> wrote:
  > > > >>>
  > > > >>> 
  > > > >>>>
  > > > >>>> thnx leo!
  > > > >>>> yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just
a
  > > > >>>> community
  > > > >>>> worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and 
  > > presentation 
  > > > >>>> i will
  > > > >>>> put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may
help 
  > > not
  > > > >>>> only me
  > > > >>>> to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other

  > > > >>>> presentation for any
  > > > >>>> one.
  > > > >>>>
  > > > >>>> On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <mail@leosimons.com<mailto<mailto:mail@leosimons.com<mailto>:

  > > mail@leosimons.com<mailto:mail@leosimons.com>>> wrote:
  > > > >>>>
  > > > >>>>
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>> usman bashir wrote:
  > > > >>>>> 
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>> hi!
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>> Hi!
  > > > >>>>> 
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>> i just want to get a permission from the community
to put up a
  > > > >>>>>> paper
  > > > >>>>>> 
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>> about
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>> the harmony creation, development and its goals
for future in a 
  > > 
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>> conference
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>> about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so
i just want
  > > > >>>>>> to ask
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>> that if
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>> 
  > > > >>>>>> i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post
the document
  > > > >>>>>> to you
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>> 
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>> people and you can also review it as well.
  > > > >>>>>> Acutally this conference is being held to review
and push the 
  > > > >>>>>> people
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>> here
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>> to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing
from harmony.so
  > > > >>>>>> i am
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>> just
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>> asking a permission of you people. 
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>>>
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>> Great! You should feel more than free to talk about
harmony at a
  > > > >>>>> conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and
I do suggest 
  > > 
  > > > >>>>> you get
  > > > >>>>> some community review since lots of people no doubt
have some
  > > > >>>>> suggestions.
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>> Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing"
"Apache 
  > > > >>>>> Harmony"
  > > > >>>>> or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would
be
  > > > >>>>> different if
  > > > >>>>> you would be part of some "official" part of Apache,
like if you 
  > > 
  > > > >>>>> were an
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>> officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to
state
  > > > >>>>> something
  > > > >>>>> like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the
ASF :-) 
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>> But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're

  > > probably
  > > > >>>>> going
  > > > >>>>> to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain
you're a 
  > > > >>>>> part of
  > > > >>>>> the apache harmony community and that you're going to
(my
  > > > >>>>> assumption
  > > > >>>>> here) help drive the project forward as a developer.

  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>> hope that clarifies it a bit,
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>> cheers,
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>> Leo
  > > > >>>>> 
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>>
  > > > >>>>
  > > > >>>>
  > > > >>>>
  > > > >>>> --
  > > > >>>> Usman Bashir
  > > > >>>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer 
  > > > >>>> Certified UML Developer
  > > > >>>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
  > > > >>>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
  > > > >>>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional 
  > > > >>>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
  > > > >>>> Software engineer IT24
  > > > >>>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
  > > > >>>>
  > > > >>>> 
  > > > >>>
  > > > >>>
  > > > >>>
  > > > >>>
  > > > >>> --
  > > > >>> Usman Bashir
  > > > >>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
  > > > >>> Certified UML Developer 
  > > > >>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
  > > > >>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
  > > > >>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
  > > > >>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP) 
  > > > >>> Software engineer IT24
  > > > >>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
  > > > >>>
  > > > >>>
  > > > >>
  > > > >> --
  > > > >> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 
  > > > >> geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org>>
  > > > >>
  > > > >>
  > > > >>
  > > > >>
  > > > > 
  > > > >
  > > > > --
  > > > > Usman Bashir
  > > > > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
  > > > > Certified UML Developer
  > > > > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
  > > > > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP) 
  > > > > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
  > > > > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
  > > > > Software engineer IT24
  > > > > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
  > > > >
  > > >
  > > > --
  > > > Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
  > > > geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org<mailto:geirm@apache.org>>
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > 
  > > 
  > > --
  > > Usman Bashir
  > > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
  > > Certified UML Developer
  > > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
  > > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
  > > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional 
  > > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
  > > Software engineer IT24
  > > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
  > > 
  > > 
  > 
  > 
  > -- 
  > Usman Bashir
  > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer 
  > Certified UML Developer
  > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
  > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
  > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional 
  > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP) 
  > Software engineer IT24
  > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore 
  > 



  -- 
  Usman Bashir
  Certified IBM XML Solution Developer 
  Certified UML Developer
  Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
  Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
  Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional 
  Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
  Software engineer IT24
  Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore

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