Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 34385 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2005 21:59:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Jul 2005 21:59:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 70933 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jul 2005 21:59:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 70878 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jul 2005 21:59:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 70865 invoked by uid 99); 22 Jul 2005 21:59:10 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:59:10 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [83.160.152.237] (HELO gnu.wildebeest.org) (83.160.152.237) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:59:05 -0700 Received: from elsschot.wildebeest.org ([192.168.1.26]) by gnu.wildebeest.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Dw5YN-0007gH-00 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:59:35 +0200 Subject: Re: [arch] VM/Classlibrary Interface (take 2) From: Mark Wielaard To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: References: <42DBDD49.8050701@gmail.com> <50FC88E5-63F2-4780-9FF2-2B6FF4C5D166@apache.org> <1121900132.7915.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-7jL3S8jLPsJnfbmIaaNX" Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:01:25 +0200 Message-Id: <1122066085.7915.278.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --=-7jL3S8jLPsJnfbmIaaNX Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 05:53 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > We seem to be giving mixed signals here. Can we try to coordinate a =20 > > bit more on the policies we want to have for this project? Even if we =20 > > cannot agree on some things it would be good to setup some resolution > > mechanism. >=20 > Agreed. What do you suggest? In this particular case I suggest we just do a vote. It was pointed out to me that my suggestion of MIT/X as default license is an acceptable choice for an incubator project: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/harmony.html#Licensing+awareness Check and make sure that all source code distributed by the project is covered by one or more of the following approved licenses: Apache, BSD, Artistic, MIT/X, MIT/W3C, MPL 1.1, or something with essentially the same terms. Since MIT/X is listed as one of the choices I propose to use this as our default license for all code that we accept for Harmony (and for which there is a Disclaimer/Software Grant/Contributors Agreement is on file). +1 I hope this is proper procedure. In general I think we should try to explain the reasoning and goals a bit more. I get the feeling there is too much assumptions being done that things must be because that is how Apache does it. We are not an Apache project (yet?). We are currently going through incubation and might or might not come out as something that Apache wants as a project. If we are really serious about making this project a success then we should assume that the people participating want to know the reasons for each decision. Even if someone feels that it is obvious because that is the way Apache has always done it. Maybe we can even influence how Apache will do things in the future by reflecting on why something is a "normal" guideline. And if we really get into conflict with traditional requirements for an proposed Apache project and the wishes of the contributors I am more then happy to setup a repository on some neutral machine so that we can at least (temporarily) work on some code. Cheers, Mark --=-7jL3S8jLPsJnfbmIaaNX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBC4V6lxVhZCJWr9QwRAp6yAJ9gBgjsO9CaMvJQI3m0DOlXpN/LJwCfUvVV 9pVtaIbQILMVGtaVrg8muNA= =aPUB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-7jL3S8jLPsJnfbmIaaNX--