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From "Renaud BECHADE" <renaud.bech...@numerix.com>
Subject RE: Minutes of First Harmony Meeting
Date Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:57:43 GMT

Sounds a bit like a time-bomb to me...

RB

-----Original Message-----
From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:05 PM
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Weldon Washburn
Subject: Re: Minutes of First Harmony Meeting

+1 to Robin. "proceed as though the license issues will eventually be
worked out"

-- dims

On 7/5/05, Robin Garner <Robin.Garner@anu.edu.au> wrote:
> I don't know where you get the idea that downloading JikesRVM or any
> component thereof 'contaminates' you.  The e-mail you refer to talks
> about redistributing a work derived from a CPL-ed work as part of an
> Apache distribution.
> 
> While MMTk is a component of JikesRVM, it is maintained by a distinct
> subgroup of the JikesRVM community.  If Harmony were to use MMTk, I'm
> sure we could make it available under an appropriate license.
> 
> In any case, the development model of MMTk is to be portable, as
> reflected in the Rotor and JNode ports, and to maintain a common code
> base for all platforms it supports.  There would then be no issue of
> distributing a derived work.
> 
> Can't you just work on the same basis as people are with Classpath -
> just proceed as though the license issues will eventually be worked
> out ?
> 
> Regards,
> Robin
> 
> On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 22:17 -0700, Weldon Washburn wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I am not allowed to download JikesRVM at this time.
> > Since I can't download Jikes, I did the next best thing -- a Google
> > search.  As far as I can tell, MMTK is part of JikesRVM and does not
> > exist as a stand-alone entity.  Is this correct?
> >
> > Also, the following mail archive says that Apache has issues with CPL
code:
> >
> >
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200503.mbox/%3C26
645680-8D0F-11D9-ACFB-000A95D41A40@apache.org%3E
> >
> > Does MMTK exist under any other license?  I'd like to look at the
> > MMTK/VM interface(s) but don't know how to do this without becoming
> > contaminated.  Does anyone have any ideas?
> >
> >    Thanks
> >        Weldon
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/1/05, Daniel Feinberg <csdread@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I can't find the license to MMTK.  Can you post a pointer?
> > > If you download JikesRVM you can see in the MMTK directory that it is
> > > licenced under CPL or the Common Public Licence.
> > >
> > > This is quoted from the licence file supplied with MMTK:
> > >
> > > MMTk is free, open source software, distributed and freely
> > > redistributable under the Common Public License (CPL).  The CPL has
> > > been certified by the Open Source Initiative as an open source
> > > license.  The CPL meets the Debian Free Software Guidelines.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Feinberg
> > > http://www.cs.unm.edu/~danielf
> > >
> 
> 


-- 
Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/


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