Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 91336 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2005 06:58:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Jun 2005 06:58:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26490 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2005 06:58:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26434 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2005 06:58:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26419 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jun 2005 06:58:25 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,INVALID_DATE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of dlydick@earthlink.net designates 207.69.195.63 as permitted sender) Received: from pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net (HELO pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (207.69.195.63) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 23:58:23 -0700 Received: from dialup-4.225.182.1.dial1.dallas1.level3.net ([4.225.182.1] helo=earthlink.net) by pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1Dep5O-0003hr-00; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 02:58:20 -0400 Message-ID: <41200560565748190@earthlink.net> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Priority: Reply-To: dlydick@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.0.7.9 (Windows) From: "Dan Lydick" To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: "dlydick" Subject: Re: [arch] How much of java.* and friends does Harmony need towrite. Was: VM/Classlibrary interface Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 1:57:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > [Original Message] > From: Sven de Marothy > To: > Date: 6/4/05 3:49:37 PM > Subject: Re: [arch] How much of java.* and friends does Harmony need towrite. Was: VM/Classlibrary interface > > On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 21:44 +0200, Santiago Gala wrote: > > > So why create flexibility when there aren't > > > options? > > > > to enable the development of other options? > > without arriving to flexibility syndrome, good interfaces enable > > competing implementations. > > If you're going to go off and write your own class library, implementing > the VM-specific parts is the least of your problems. > > > Your question has exactly the same mindset that Sun people's comments: "Java is free > > enough, you have our implementation for free, why do you want another > > one?" :-) > > No, it isn't the same mindset at all, because I can give you a specific > list of grievances I have with the Sun license. But nobody here seems to > be able to give list any specific problems with the GNU Classpath VM > interface other than "It's not ours.". So if it's available, let Geir and co. keep working on any legalities with FSF for using it to the max. That's what they wrote it for, and I'm all for investigating its potential. > > /Sven > Dan Lydick