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Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:50 +0200
Subject: Re: Apache Harmony / GNU Classpath
From: Leo Simons <mail@leosimons.com>
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On 16-05-2005 18:18, "Stu Statman" <gurustu@att.net> wrote:
> Would it be possible for someone from the GNU Classpath community ... if
> any are on this list ... to give an overview of the status of GNU
> Classpath? How complete is it now? How much work do they anticipate it
> being to get to 1.5?

Probably...there's a few of em reading here...but I suggest asking on the
classpath mailing list, that's what its for :-)

> I did a quick (a *very* quick) spin around the GNU Classpath site, and
> I'm a bit confused by some of the task lists. According to one URL
> (http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/tasks.html), they're a few weeks
> away from being done; according to another
> (http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?group=classpath), there are open tasks
> going back years.

Somewhere in the middle. You can run ant, tomcat, eclipse and some other
stuff using classpath. They've got really big chunks (ie swing, corba, iiuc)
that are in need of loads of work. Mark Wielaard (one of the main classpath
devs) wrote some e-mails about this to this list just a few days ago; check
the archives.

> It would be nice to get the nickel tour, giving the lay of the land, an
> explanation of who the players are, of where volunteers are most needed,
> of how 1.5 code gets submitted. I don't think it's in anybody's
> interests for a bunch of new devs who don't know the internal culture of
> GNU Classpath to storm in and start tromping around.

I think they'd like that actually. Might tell you to RTFM a little, because
the answers are actually in their FAQ ;). Note the classpath people do a lot
over irc (#classpath on freenode).

>> I have no intention of forking GNU Classpath. Even if we wanted to, we
>> couldn't because of the license.
> 
> What is the licensing goal, by the way? Dual licensing under
> GPL+Exception and Apache? Or is GPL+Exception "good enough"?

I just wrote an e-mail on that (or, several)! We'll give a better answer in
a few weeks/months/how long it takes.

Cheers!

Leo