Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 46430 invoked from network); 12 May 2005 13:45:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 12 May 2005 13:45:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 7646 invoked by uid 500); 12 May 2005 13:47:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 6780 invoked by uid 500); 12 May 2005 13:47:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 6299 invoked by uid 99); 12 May 2005 13:47:35 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: 217.155.92.109 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ben@algroup.co.uk) Received: from mail.links.org (HELO mail.links.org) (217.155.92.109) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:47:35 -0700 Received: from [193.133.15.218] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.links.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CF133C33; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:43:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <42835D78.10501@algroup.co.uk> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:43:20 +0100 From: Ben Laurie User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: board@apache.org Cc: Davanum Srinivas , pmc@incubator.apache.org, harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Harmony / GNU Classpath References: <19e0530f050511063729514d95@mail.gmail.com> <19e0530f0505120459676c99af@mail.gmail.com> <20050512125058.GH8841@lyra.org> In-Reply-To: <20050512125058.GH8841@lyra.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Greg Stein wrote: > Dims, > > The current position of the ASF is that all of our software is licensed > under the Apache License. No dual licensing, no variations, and no special > exceptions for any of our codebases. This provides our users with a very > simple model of licensing. Everything is licensed the same way with no > hidden "gotchas" to trip up users, distributors, developers, VARs, etc. > > This singular licensing model is and will remain in effect. If you would > like an exception, then you will need to provide a Board resolution to > make it happen. Given that the Apache License is *very* flexible, I'm > unclear on what that resolution could propose for change. > > Any resolution will not be deferred to "the next board", but it will be > discussed and voted upon at a board meeting (May 18th or June 22nd). If > you believe and require that a vote is needed outside of that, then we can > make it happen. > > Regarding the bundling of GPL'd software (e.g. Classpath): my > understanding is that would require the entire package falls under the > GPL. Even if an exception is made by the authors of the GPL'd software, > you would still have an ASF package with a mixed license (which is more > constraining that our Apache License). Classpath already does have an exception which would permit bundling of unrelated s/w without the GPL spreading to it. As I understand it, this at least means that we can combine ALed code with Classpath (of course, I maintain that we can combine ALed code with _any_ GPLed code, but the FSF like to disagree), though I agree that our current policies would prevent us providing it as part of a bundle. Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff