Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 25630 invoked from network); 24 May 2005 18:25:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 May 2005 18:25:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 9270 invoked by uid 500); 24 May 2005 18:25:53 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 8930 invoked by uid 500); 24 May 2005 18:25:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 8912 invoked by uid 99); 24 May 2005 18:25:51 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of dlydick@earthlink.net designates 207.69.195.63 as permitted sender) Received: from pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net (HELO pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (207.69.195.63) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:25:50 -0700 Received: from dialup-4.225.176.150.dial1.dallas1.level3.net ([4.225.176.150] helo=earthlink.net) by pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1Dae64-0005qL-00; Tue, 24 May 2005 14:25:45 -0400 Message-ID: <412005522418252860@earthlink.net> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Priority: Reply-To: dlydick@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.0.7.9 (Windows) From: "Dan Lydick" To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: "dlydick" Subject: Re: Sun lashes out at open source J2SE Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 13:25:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > [Original Message] > From: Mladen Turk > To: > Date: 5/24/05 5:41:28 AM > Subject: Re: Sun lashes out at open source J2SE > > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > Eh. > > > > Lets just keep to our purpose and message of compatibility and > > openness. > > When we move from 'enthusiasm' to the 'project' more and more > 'doubts' will be seen :) As we move along, we _must_ remember the little ditty attributed to Henry Ford: "Success is going from one failure to the next without loss of enthusiasm." Let's remember that we are at this point an assemblage of disparate but interested professionals. We don't have to get _everything_ right the first time, but we do need to build a community of the interested. Notice a regular theme in this list being to build community first, tinker in the sandbox second, and build something third, (goto step 2 until finished, and reinforce step 1 where necessary). We're gonna get things WRONG from time to time, but if we're a community, we'll get errors corrected and build it RIGHT. In all our enthusiasm, in all our doubts, let's be patient while we are jumping in to our next failure, because eventually WE WILL SUCCEED if we keep at it.... Just thought y'all needed that! > > Let's just play our song and let others have all the doubts they wish. > > Regards, > Mladen. Dan Lydick