Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 31476 invoked from network); 17 May 2005 23:46:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 May 2005 23:46:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 28668 invoked by uid 500); 17 May 2005 17:56:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 28610 invoked by uid 500); 17 May 2005 17:56:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 28562 invoked by uid 99); 17 May 2005 17:56:04 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from syslx09.physto.se (HELO mail3.physto.se) (130.242.128.36) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:56:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail3.physto.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFBDC329F for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:55:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail3.physto.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (syslx09.physto.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09621-08 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:55:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from qcplx01.physto.se (qcplx01.physto.se [130.242.128.121]) by mail3.physto.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D53C329A for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:55:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: One way to start hacking now From: Sven de Marothy To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:55:35 +0200 Message-Id: <1116352535.16934.49.camel@qcplx01.physto.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 (2.0.3-0.mozer.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at physto.se X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi, I've seen a lot of anxious volunteers on this list just itching to get started with something. And I'd like to make a suggestion, which is to help out on the GNU Classpath class libraries. I wrote an intro on how[1] to this list. Some of you may be hesitant because you're more interested in Harmony, and it hasn't been decided if Harmony will actually use GNU Classpath or not. However: There is no real reason to be worried here. Although Classpath does require FSF assignment of copyright, that assignment gives you a full grant-back of rights. Meaning: If bad comes to worse and Harmony doesn't use GNU Classpath, you will still be able to contribute your own Classpath contributions to Harmony. This is because the ASF only requires a full license, and not the copyright ownership. (whereas the FSF requires ownership but gives you back a full license). IANAL, but I've gotten confirmation of this from FSF-licensing (see end). So, those of you itching to get started with something, I invite you to come look at GNU Classpath. Your effort will not be wasted. /Sven [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/200505.mbox/%3c1116284171.29371.75.camel@qcplx01.physto.se%3e [Comment: the text I was referring to 'as above' here is the Apache Contributors License Agreement] > > [sven@physto.se - Mon May 16 17:12:01 2005]: > > > So the question here is, after I've has assigned copyright on code > to > > the FSF, does the FSF grant-back of rights allow me to license that > > code to Apache, as above? > > Yes. > -- > -Dave "Novalis" Turner > GPL Compliance Engineer > Free Software Foundation > > >