Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 31691 invoked from network); 11 May 2005 14:09:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 11 May 2005 14:09:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 34194 invoked by uid 500); 11 May 2005 14:10:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 34131 invoked by uid 500); 11 May 2005 14:10:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 34116 invoked by uid 99); 11 May 2005 14:10:07 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from wildebeest.demon.nl (HELO gnu.wildebeest.org) (83.160.152.237) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:10:07 -0700 Received: from ext-gw01.feelslikefriday.com ([217.195.237.146] helo=[192.168.0.14]) by gnu.wildebeest.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DVrqY-00039v-00 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:05:58 +0200 Subject: Re: Java Security for Harmony From: Mark Wielaard To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: References: <5f21a0a9577705abd531cebc48d11085@earthlink.net> <42807005.4070500@algroup.co.uk> <01f801c55541$f26d9430$8400000a@MEANMACHINE> <4280D63C.2060801@algroup.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-6gYGLOVxsWwcaDdv/C0s" Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:06:14 +0200 Message-Id: <1115820374.1764.46.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --=-6gYGLOVxsWwcaDdv/C0s Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 21:40 -0400, Bob wrote: > Some attention DOES need to be paid to speed. If Harmony is =20 > consistently 3-5X slower than Sun (which it will be, if there's no JIT =20 > and no bytecode verifier and no ahead-of-time compiler), then many Java =20 > apps will simply be too slow to run on Harmony. Although simple interpreters aren't as speedy as some of the other execution models out there, the speed of some implementations (notably gcj) is comparable to other implementations. See for example: http://www.shudo.net/jit/perf/ http://www.spindazzle.org/benchmarks/ Cheers, Mark --=-6gYGLOVxsWwcaDdv/C0s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBCghFWxVhZCJWr9QwRAnO0AKCFdZN+MLNyX+MeMp4S2lY+G5faYgCfW7dx 7oE7ATBmqQVk8AjzVmiI7ic= =zbTI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-6gYGLOVxsWwcaDdv/C0s--