From harmony-dev-return-210-apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed May 11 16:50:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 16451 invoked from network); 11 May 2005 16:50:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 11 May 2005 16:50:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 89101 invoked by uid 500); 11 May 2005 16:53:53 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 89045 invoked by uid 500); 11 May 2005 16:53:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 89027 invoked by uid 99); 11 May 2005 16:53:52 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of kumpera@gmail.com designates 64.233.170.193 as permitted sender) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (HELO rproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.170.193) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:53:52 -0700 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so100742rne for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:50:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gaOBfqybH2KtT4MIzHHKQUQWd273FcZq7cdX2ZzfnOgmzz7k/kIubwoX1KdJ6DoRL/tAS5J9oOcSq0xyni5NOy/YtpNYnDOPU3FLmbJDs1rVS6TzKLp2Z+d7yGjS0/LIPhusudGwlGmu971X/uWXA0Wf1Uoo2TnhprGNoC7OSMc= Received: by 10.38.90.51 with SMTP id n51mr340880rnb; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.90.73 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cca42d805051109503db1356c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:50:04 -0300 From: Rodrigo Kumpera Reply-To: Rodrigo Kumpera To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org, FaeLLe Subject: Re: Java In-Reply-To: <50088f9205051109473faaf7dd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4281779C.8090600@anu.edu.au> <4281B6E3.808@earthlink.net> <3847.196.8.104.31.1115801579.squirrel@196.8.104.31> <42823329.90105@earthlink.net> <428235BD.8000409@kaffe.org> <50088f9205051109473faaf7dd@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Are you really curious? Then go to dev.java.net and take a look at the TCK sources. It's distributed in a read-only license. Rodrigo On 5/11/05, FaeLLe wrote: > But im still curious do you think TCK checks if Harmony would have > implementations of the deprecated methods or can we just spraingly and > judging the needs implement a selected few of those. >=20 > On 5/11/05, Dalibor Topic wrote: > > > > Dmitry Serebrennikov wrote: > > > > > So I guess those libraries being in Java is not a foregone conclusion > > > either then? :) JNI is a mess though... > > > > The J2SE libraries require certain bits and pieces that would be pretty > > pointless to reimplement in Java unless the target environment does not > > provide them, and in that case you *might* be better off just porting a > > different library from an environment to support it, rather than > > rewriting the whole TCP/IP stack in Java, for example. That depends on > > the environment you're targeting. > > > > Ideally, you want to have both options, of course. But in practice, mos= t > > people prefer to delegate at least some functionality to their target > > environment, if any possible, by (re)using the facilities provided by > > the OS or portability layers. > > > > To give you an example: Kaffe has an InetAddress implementation that ca= n > > use both the native os facilities, or delegate to the DNSJava libraries= . > > Which choice is better depends on the target environment. > > > > cheers, > > dalibor topic > > >=20 > -- > www.FaeLLe.com >=20 >