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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [arch] VM Candidate : JikesRVM http://jikesrvm.sourceforge.net/
Date Mon, 23 May 2005 11:57:49 GMT

On May 22, 2005, at 9:27 PM, Renaud BECHADE wrote:

>
>
> > No.  Why would we do this?
> People tend to be lazy. If they have a bundle with one VM, then  
> they will
> use that VM, for most of them, IMHO. I seriously doubt we can have  
> people
> trust an alternative VM if it is not a piece of cake (sort of "with  
> a one
> liner on the console you are started") to develop with it, and as  
> it is
> unlikely it will support everything perfectly at the beginning (to  
> convince
> you let us consider running .NET soft on a Linux/Mono machine, or  
> XSP code
> on a FreeBSD/mono machine - sometimes it crashes badly, or again  
> freeware
> support of Flash swf, all of which can have slightly strange behaviors
> sometimes, if compared with commercial equivalents, so that a  
> development
> that is not started /from the beginning/ with them might get into  
> troubles)
> there will be some intensive testing to do on real applications,  
> which might
> involve some patches on "must-have" packages such as Eclipse / J2EE  
> etc.
> (including strategies as simple as repackaging with a bit less  
> modules to
> have it actually run because some funny class is not here)


It would be great if people would bundle Harmony with stuff (and plan  
to do it w/ Geronimo when that time comes), bit it's way out of scope  
for *this* project to get into the business of reditributing software  
from outside of the ASF.

geir

>
> RB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 7:38 PM
> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [arch] VM Candidate : JikesRVM http:// 
> jikesrvm.sourceforge.net/
>
>
> On May 19, 2005, at 10:29 PM, Renaud BECHADE wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> Another point that is unrelated, but what about the "packaging" of
>> the VM?
>> Do we plan to release it with say Eclipse + Server (JSF + IDE +
>> object DB or
>> O/R mapping + HSQL DB)? (IMHO this is good way to legitimate it)
>>
>
> No.  Why would we do this?
>
> We want our JRE or JDK to be an alternative to the existing JREs and
> JDKs w/o having people worry about all the cruft.
>
> If you had an interest in bundling for some reason,  you could of
> course take the thing and do that elsewhere (or start a separate
> project here if there was enough support and a decent rationale...)
>
> geir
>
> -- 
> Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>

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Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org



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