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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Research
Date Mon, 16 May 2005 15:14:12 GMT
The academic community was one of the original groups we reached out  
to via Doug Lea and others :)

We're very interested in their participation, both as contributors  
and users.

geir

On May 14, 2005, at 2:30 AM, Steve Blackburn wrote:

> A lot of the existing work on open VMs has come out of the academic
> and industrial research communities (Jikes RVM, SableVM, ORP, OVM,
> Joeq, LLVM...).
>
> I think it may be worthwhile considering both what the research
> community's needs are and what the research community can bring to the
> harmony project.
>
> . The research community needs access to a quality VM with a liberal
>   license.
>
>     - Performance is key to credibility.  A research result that shows
>       a 10% speedup over something we know to perform awfully is of
>       little interest to anyone.  This is a reason why Jikes RVM has
>       been attractive to researchers.  Consider the number of
>       institutions, names and hours represented in this list:
>       http://jikesrvm.sourceforge.net/info/papers.shtml. When I was
>       at U. Mass we stopped what had been a huge effort to build our
>       own JVM and instead put our resources into Jikes RVM because it
>       had an outstanding optimizing compiler and (at the time) was
>       very competitive with the best commercial VMs.
>
>     - Software quality is very important.  The software must be
>       flexible and modular to facilitate rapid realization of new
>       ideas.
>
>     - Researchers don't want to be locked in by a license (some
>       commercial licenses, for example).  They also want a
>       transparent development model where they can see what's going
>       on and what is likely to happen.  Above all, many researchers
>       get a real buzz out of seeing their neat ideas being widely
>       used, so they want a model that allows them to recontribute
>       their work.
>
> . The research community can bring cutting edge technology to a VM.
>
>     - The amount and variety of Java technology emerging from the
>       academic research community is amazing.  The biggest challenge
>       is channeling those ideas back into VM infrastructures.  This
>       is partly a cultural issue and partly a software engineering
>       issue.  If the software is not readily amenable to
>       contributions of radical technology, such contributions are
>       unlikely to happen.  If academics are not part of or don't
>       understand the open community they won't be part of the culture
>       of contribution.
>
> So, the academic community represents a huge intellectual resource.
> For a project with big ambitions and yet so dependent on cutting edge
> technology, harnessing some of that intellectual resource is going  
> to be
> important.
>
> --Steve
>
>

-- 
Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org



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