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From usman bashir <grip...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [arch] VM Candidate : JikesRVM http://jikesrvm.sourceforge.net/
Date Wed, 18 May 2005 11:15:17 GMT
Yeah! i was thinking over the same lines while reading last night the 
impatients! and what the other communtities is looking towards us, they 
surelly wana see us to get some thing innovative rather then just a wrapper 
over the oldies, ( sorry guys its not just critic plz forgive me if some 
minds) , so i think we should came out some thing that is innovative , we 
dont lack the skills and as the time went on , we will have more active 
participation of the people from the community.
 but there is another prospect as well , while keeping a design and other 
issues aside we can also dig into the holes to get some thing out of it from 
the current availaibities. (as we dont want to loose and discard what the 
people already had done it) so the best possible scenario will be like this
 start now with some thing avialable and put the things in such a way that 
as time went on , we can replace the modules with our own inventions ( ;) ) 
and this modulairty is what i m crying for now, we should not forget this as 
for me i m looking it positively from harmony.
 so what u think going parrallel in both ways could help us , is not ?
 and yeah along wiht it many many ideas are coming and i will raise a point 
as well (we should keep a list of these wishlist together and also allow the 
guys to work over it ) and later on we can add those wishies into our final 
 so for me i m not looking the first release i m also looking for the future 
releases of harmony

 On 5/18/05, Mladen Turk <mturk@apache.org> wrote: 
> Ozgur Akan wrote:
> > Actually Jikes uses it`s own VM and has a part written in C. This makes
> > things a little bit different.
> >
> Huh, yes. It makes a completely different light on Harmony project.
> Perhaps the Harmony project should start as Jikes based proposal.
> Now that people get enthusiastic about building something new and
> technologically advanced, seems we are going to use the existing
> technology after all with exiting JVM and existing classpath library.
> > If we are talking about the architecture of Jikes, like how it
> > implemented GC etc., then yes it is not time to speak about performance.
> >
> Not sure what Gair had in mind, but that was mine concern about
> premature optimization.
> Regards,
> Mladen.

Usman Bashir
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