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From Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Apache Harmony / GNU Classpath
Date Thu, 12 May 2005 14:28:35 GMT
Yep Agreed.

-- dims

On 5/12/05, Brett Porter <brett@apache.org> wrote:
> (harmony specific - back to this list only)
> 
> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> 
> >Ben,
> >
> >Once we get past that problem, we have to get an ok for provining a
> >single bundle. I think 2 downloads to get a working JVM (say on M$
> >platform) is to say it mildly...crazy.
> >
> >
> While it is great to see everyone continue to work through the licensing
> issues, and that should definitely continue, I don't see the "2
> downloads" as a big issue until there is the other 1 download :)
> 
> I believe there will be a fair bit of time to sort out those license
> issues, and decide whether to use classpath, use something else, or
> write it from scratch/donation between now and when this actually
> becomes important.
> 
> As I mentioned on IRC the other day, early adopters are not going to
> find it a big deal to download a class library separately, and more than
> likely they already have rt.jar on their system and can (as I understand
> it) quite legally drop that in on their machine to test out the ApacheVM
> or whatever it happens to be. I did it the other day with Kaffe when
> classpath didn't compile on cygwin. That I can see happening - the
> converse, not so.
> 
> I realise its kind of early in the life of the project in the wild, but
> I think it would be important for there to be some focus on getting
> something out sooner, and it seems obvious to me that most of the
> interest here is on VM related work so far. To some extent I guess this
> is because there isn't a lot of room to innovate in the class libraries,
> but I think the point is still valid.
> 
> I defnitely think 2 downloads would suck for a final product - but
> that's down the track a ways. I understand its going to need a lot of
> leg work and will take time, it just (to me) seems like there is a bit
> of panic surrounding getting it resolved, where I think the community
> would be better off getting focused and working on planning the VM side
> of things.
> 
> My $A0.02 :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Brett
> 


-- 
Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/

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