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From "Edward J. Yoon" <edwardy...@apache.org>
Subject Re: GSoC 2011 mentoring
Date Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:53:14 GMT
> So to conclude, I think it's a good idea to mention Bellman-Ford and give
> some resources about it without define it as mandatory (it's good to give
> students some freedom - it's motivating), then it's the role of the mentor
> to guide the student to the right implementation and how the algorithm can
> be applied to BSP.

+1, I agree with you.

Thanks for your comment and advice!

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Alois Cochard <alois.cochard@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since Bellman-Ford seems to be the only distributed shortest path finding
> algorithm to exist actually (is it correct ?), would be nice to point
> students to it.
>
> But I think it's must not be a 'mandatory point' if a student is capable to
> come with his own distributed algorithm - we don't know, perhaps
> a genius student will come with this - we can accept it.
>
> For the majority of students, telling them to focus on Bellman-Ford is a
> good idea, making them able to think about implementation and understanding
> Hama/BSP instead of breaking their heads by trying to find an original
> algorithm (or trying to make distributed a 'non-distributable' one) and
> loosing lot of time.
>
> I found a nice publication about history of Bellman-Ford / Distributed
> [Asynchronous] Bellman-Ford:
> http://www.walden-family.com/public/bf-history.pdf
> (fun to see that this algorithm is used by ARPANET for routing -didn't know
> that- and how the algorithm evolved)
>
> So to conclude, I think it's a good idea to mention Bellman-Ford and give
> some resources about it without define it as mandatory (it's good to give
> students some freedom - it's motivating), then it's the role of the mentor
> to guide the student to the right implementation and how the algorithm can
> be applied to BSP.
>
> I'm more used to Dijkstra/A* than Bellman-Ford and still a newbee with Hama
> but if you need help for mentorship (or as a backup mentor) don't hesitate
> to ask, I have a strong interest for this kind of algorithms/problems and
> open to spend some of my free time on this.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On 15 March 2011 15:22, Edward J. Yoon <edwardyoon@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> BTW, What do you think about the task topic? Students have to design
>> the scenario from A to Z.
>>
>> The task description should be detailed and informative? If so, it
>> seems better to focus on bellman-ford algorithm.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Alois Cochard <alois.cochard@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks a lot Eddie, everything is ok now :)
>> >
>> > The shortest path finding algorithm is a really a great project, if was
>> > still a student I would loved working on this !
>> >
>> > I hope that a passionate student will find interest in it !
>> >
>> > Good luck !
>> >
>> > --
>> > *Alois Cochard*
>> > http://aloiscochard.blogspot.com
>> > http://twitter.com/aloiscochard
>> >
>> > On 15 March 2011 11:38, Edward J. Yoon <edwardyoon@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > Even if not qualified for mentor-ship I wanted to take a look at it,
>> but
>> >> the
>> >> > link don't work :(
>> >>
>> >> Sounds great!
>> >>
>> >> > "The selected filter with id '12315366' does not exist."
>> >> >
>> >> > Perhaps I haven't sufficient right in JIRA to see it ?
>> >>
>> >> Oh, .. I've just changed permission to everyone, Pls check again.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Alois Cochard <alois.cochard@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > Even if not qualified for mentor-ship I wanted to take a look at it,
>> but
>> >> the
>> >> > link don't work :(
>> >> >
>> >> > "The selected filter with id '12315366' does not exist."
>> >> >
>> >> > Perhaps I haven't sufficient right in JIRA to see it ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> > Alois Cochard
>> >> > http://aloiscochard.blogspot.com
>> >> > http://twitter.com/aloiscochard
>> >> >
>> >> > On 11 March 2011 02:06, Edward J. Yoon <edwardyoon@apache.org>
wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Here's our gsoc tasks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://s.apache.org/Hama-GSoC
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Who can participate in these issues as mentor?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I can help for all issues as a mentor or a co-mentor.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
>> >> >> http://blog.udanax.org
>> >> >> http://twitter.com/eddieyoon
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
>> >> http://blog.udanax.org
>> >> http://twitter.com/eddieyoon
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
>> http://blog.udanax.org
>> http://twitter.com/eddieyoon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Alois Cochard*
> http://aloiscochard.blogspot.com
> http://twitter.com/aloiscochard
>



-- 
Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
http://blog.udanax.org
http://twitter.com/eddieyoon

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