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From "Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (YARN-1324) NodeManager potentially causes unnecessary operations on all its disks
Date Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:12:44 GMT

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Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli commented on YARN-1324:
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bq. Are there current applications that want to write in parallel to multiple local disks?
Clearly MR. I'm sure others do too.

bq. If not, then we should probably figure out how to support them well when they show up.
We cannot break MR.

bq. In the meanwhile, we could look at the above mentioned drawbacks and decide whether the
they are worth fixing or not, either by restricting solution above or some other solution.
Are the above drawbacks worthwhile issues? If yes, are there alternative proposals for a solution?
I just gave a solution above that may just work: "And the better solution for that is to make
apps ask the number of disks to write when they launch containers. That way YARN isn't overriding
users intention to use/not use multiple disks."

If that solution sounds fine, we can run with it, thinking more about disk resources in general.


> NodeManager potentially causes unnecessary operations on all its disks
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: YARN-1324
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-1324
>             Project: Hadoop YARN
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 2.2.0
>            Reporter: Bikas Saha
>
> Currently, for every container, the NM creates a directory on every disk and expects
the container-task to choose 1 of them and load balance the use of the disks across all containers.

> 1) This may have worked fine in the MR world where MR tasks would randomly choose dirs
but in general we cannot expect every app/task writer to understand these nuances and randomly
pick disks. So we could end up overloading the first disk if most people decide to use the
first disk.
> 2) This makes a number of NM operations to scan every disk (thus randomizing that disk)
to locate the dir which the task has actually chosen to use for its files. Makes all these
operations expensive for the NM as well as disruptive for users of disks that did not have
the real task working dirs.
> I propose that NM should up-front decide the disk it is assigning to tasks. It could
choose to do so randomly or weighted-randomly by looking at space and load on each disk. So
it could do a better job of load balancing. Then, it would associate the chosen working directory
with the container context so that subsequent operations on the NM can directly seek to the
correct location instead of having to seek on every disk.



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