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From: Karthik Kambatla <kasha@cloudera.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:32:39 -0800
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release cadence and EOL
To: Sangjin Lee <sjlee@apache.org>
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+1

I would also like to see some process guidelines. I should have brought
this up on the discussion thread, but I thought of them only now :(

   - Is an RM responsible for all maintenance releases against a minor
   release, or finding another RM to drive a maintenance release? In the past,
   this hasn't been a major issue.
   - When do we pick/volunteer to RM a minor release? IMO, this should be
   right after the previous release goes out. For example, Junping is driving
   2.8.0 now. As soon as that is done, we need to find a volunteer to RM 2.9.0
   6 months after.
   - The release process has multiple steps, based on
   major/minor/maintenance. It would be nice to capture/track how long each
   step takes so the RM can be prepared. e.g. herding the cats for an RC takes
   x weeks, compatibility checks take y days of work.


On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Sangjin Lee <sjlee@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks for correcting me! I left out a sentence by mistake. :)
>
> To correct the proposal we're voting for:
>
> A minor release on the latest major line should be every 6 months, and a
> maintenance release on a minor release (as there may be concurrently
> maintained minor releases) every 2 months.
>
> A minor release line is end-of-lifed 2 years after it is released or there
> are 2 newer minor releases, whichever is sooner. The community reserves the
> right to extend or shorten the life of a release line if there is a good
> reason to do so.
>
> Sorry for the snafu.
>
> Regards,
> Sangjin
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Daniel Templeton <daniel@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for driving this, Sangjin. Quick question, though: the subject
> line
> > is "Release cadence and EOL," but I don't see anything about cadence in
> the
> > proposal.  Did I miss something?
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> >
> > On 1/17/17 8:35 AM, Sangjin Lee wrote:
> >
> >> Following up on the discussion thread on this topic (
> >> https://s.apache.org/eFOf), I'd like to put the proposal for a vote for
> >> the
> >> release cadence and EOL. The proposal is as follows:
> >>
> >> "A minor release line is end-of-lifed 2 years after it is released or
> >> there
> >> are 2 newer minor releases, whichever is sooner. The community reserves
> >> the
> >> right to extend or shorten the life of a release line if there is a good
> >> reason to do so."
> >>
> >> This also entails that we the Hadoop community commit to following this
> >> practice and solving challenges to make it possible. Andrew Wang laid
> out
> >> some of those challenges and what can be done in the discussion thread
> >> mentioned above.
> >>
> >> I'll set the voting period to 7 days. I understand a majority rule would
> >> apply in this case. Your vote is greatly appreciated, and so are
> >> suggestions!
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Sangjin
> >>
> >>
> >
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