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From Peyman Mohajerian <mohaj...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Business Analysts in Hadoop World
Date Sun, 30 Jun 2013 19:50:49 GMT
I would say as a BA you definitely don't have to bother with Java and the
goal of open source big data is not to have people work with Java. If you
get familiar with Hive and HQL it will help you a lot. A lot of
organizations are entering into this space from DW/BI background and none
have to do Java. Even if you do want do some low level data analysis,
Python would be better from your point of view (the language of a lot of
Data Science guys). Java is great if you want to start contributing to the
code base or writing the most optimized queries or understand the low level
implementations.



On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Michael Aro <m.michael.aro@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Vijay,
>
> Scott Gnau of Teradata Labs mentioned something related in the recent
> Hadoop summit in San Jose. The title of his presentation was "Putting
> Hadoop to Work in the Enterprise" and you can watch the video via this
> link: http://hadoopsummit.org/san-jose/keynote-day1/. He mentioned the
> business analyst around time 07:00 in the video. All the videos were great!
>
> Mike.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:49 AM, <saigraph@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Is Data scientist in hadoop same as BA in IT.
>> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: * Michael Forage <Michael.Forage@livenation.co.uk>
>> *Date: *Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:57:24 +0000
>> *To: *user@hadoop.apache.org<user@hadoop.apache.org>
>> *ReplyTo: * user@hadoop.apache.org
>> *Subject: *RE: Business Analysts in Hadoop World
>>
>>  Hi Vijay****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I’m afraid I’m not experienced or specialised enough in either Hadoop or
>> the broader Big data industry to give any advice on career paths****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Obviously different organisations expect completely different levels of
>> technical contribution from their Business Analysts but in my experience
>> the ability to collect, evaluate and interpret business requirements into
>> some kind of functional specification document is key. The responsibility
>> for subsequent technical specifications based applied knowledge of the big
>> data tools at disposal will probably sit with your Solution Architect.
>> Often a BA wouldn’t care how a solution is implemented under the covers.
>> However, in the same way that a BA may define user-flows in a use-case they
>> could outline a conceptual data processing flow if they understand the
>> source data and requirements well enough.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> There are so many new tools and technologies in this space already that,
>> unless you have a specific requirement to meet, it can be pretty
>> overwhelming. I’d just start by concentrating on getting an understanding
>> of map reduce concepts. Sure, it always helps if you’ve the time to get
>> some hands-on technical  experience but that’s not a trivial undertaking
>> from a standing start and it may be completely irrelevant for you in the
>> long run as that’s not what a BA is paid to do.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Sorry I can’t be more help****
>>
>> Mike****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Vijaya Narayana Reddy Bhoomi Reddy [mailto:
>> vijaya.bhoomi@huawei.com]
>> *Sent:* 28 June 2013 14:10
>> *To:* user@hadoop.apache.org
>> *Subject:* RE: Business Analysts in Hadoop World****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Michael,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks for your advice. I am just confused because I could not see a
>> clear career path for Business Analysts in the Hadoop world. May be
>> because, it’s an evolving field or maybe I am not yet aware of the same
>> despite reading some primary content on the internet. However, I firmly
>> believe the Big Data space is going to be very big in the next years and I
>> would like to be part of it and contribute. I would like to know from you
>> more on the role and responsibilities a BA can perform in this space and
>> the possible areas / technologies which I need myself to be prepared for.
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks****
>>
>> Vijay****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Michael Forage [mailto:Michael.Forage@livenation.co.uk<Michael.Forage@livenation.co.uk>]
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2013 5:23 PM
>> *To:* user@hadoop.apache.org
>> *Subject:* RE: Business Analysts in Hadoop World****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hi Vijay****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> My advice is to carefully consider the scope of the role you’re aiming for
>> ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> As a BA I expect that you’d be able to add value by understanding your
>> business data processing challenges and turning them into specifications
>> for map/reduce jobs. This doesn’t require you to have any Java coding
>> skills as such, just a good handle of the map/reduce concepts. It also
>> helps if you understand common use-cases associated with these technologies
>> (as it’s really an ecosystem of related toolsets) as well as what they’re
>> not so good for.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> This would allow you to contribute to solution design on behalf of the
>> business but assumes you’re not concerned with the actual
>> implementation/administration side of things. Definitely only bother
>> re-learning Java if you’re going to be the one writing the code. You do
>> need to have had experience of working with data of some kind (this is a
>> data processing environment at the end of the day) but simply reading a
>> decent Hadoop book and googling a few websites should give you a decent
>> enough background as a BA****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Cheers****
>>
>> Mike****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* Lokesh Basu [mailto:lokesh.basu@gmail.com <lokesh.basu@gmail.com>]
>>
>> *Sent:* 28 June 2013 12:35
>> *To:* user@hadoop.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Business Analysts in Hadoop World****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Dear Vijay,
>>
>> If you are a beginner in the open source project then I would recommend
>> you to first get familiar with Java and some version control system and
>> then go to this (http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/HowToContribute) page.
>>
>> If you are not aware of the Hadoop project then you should go through
>> some online text/videos to get the insight.
>>
>> Best of luck****
>>
>>
>> ****
>>
>>
>> *Lokesh Chandra Basu*****
>>
>> B. Tech****
>>
>> Computer Science and Engineering****
>>
>> Indian Institute of Technology, Roorkee****
>>
>> India(GMT +5hr 30min)****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Vijaya Narayana Reddy Bhoomi Reddy <
>> vijaya.bhoomi@huawei.com> wrote:****
>>
>> Hi,****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I am just trying to get myself acquainted with Hadoop and other related
>> technologies. I am very much fascinated with the potential of the Big Data
>> world and hence would like to be part of it!! ****
>>
>> However, it has been a while I have done any coding. Earlier for a brief
>> period of time during early days of my career, I have done some work in
>> Java. All these days, I am working as a Business Analyst in the CRM space.
>> ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> ·         Before I start exploring Hadoop world, I would like to hear
>> your thoughts on the following queries:****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> ·         Being a business analyst, what would be the possible career
>> opportunities in the Hadoop space?****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> ·         Is it necessary to have a strong technical background before
>> jumping into Hadoop? If so, which technologies need to be learnt primarily?
>> Java, SQL etc?****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> ·         What are the various certifications available in the Hadoop
>> world? Are there any certifications for Business Analysts?****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Please let me know your valuable thoughts.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Thanks****
>>
>> Vijay****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> ****
>>
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