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From "Dmitriy V. Ryaboy (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (PIG-760) Serialize schemas for PigStorage() and other storage types.
Date Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:44:59 GMT

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Dmitriy V. Ryaboy commented on PIG-760:
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bq. If some tools need getters and setters, feel free to add them. But please leave the members
public. 

I'll revert the change.

bq. I notice you snuck in your names for LoadMetadata and StoreMetadata. I'm fine with motions
to change the names. But let's get everyone to agree on the new names before we start using
them.

Yeah I kind of figured we'll get to discuss again if I do that :-). It seems like we didn't
really reach a final decision last time.  Are we sure the only time it might be reasonable
to read or write metadata are during Loads and Stores? I am not. I can envision future uses
where the "storage" is some ephemeral state that we have operating reporting stats into to
enable adaptive optimizations.   Also, and I know I am nitpicking, "LoadMetadata" is an instruction,
where's "MetadataLoader" is a thing. Same with "StoreMetadata" and MetadataStorer (but storer
isn't a real word so I chose Writer..).

bq. On the StoreMetadata interface, Pradeep had some thoughts on getting rid of it, as he
felt all the necessary information could be communicated in StoreFunc.allFinished(). He should
be publishing an update to the load/store redesign wiki ( http://wiki.apache.org/pig/LoadStoreRedesignProposal
) soon. 

I was envisioning the setStatistics() and setSchema() methods as methods used to alter state,
whereas allFinished()  essentially does the job of flushing whatever is needed (you'll notice
I fake an allFinished() method in my finish() implementation by simply checking if any other
task has started creating the necessary file yet -- a suboptimal workaround, but the best
that can be done with the current interface).

bq. He also wanted to change LoadMetadata.getSchema() to take a location so that the loader
could find the file.

A location by itself my not be sufficient -- for example for the JsonMetadata implementation,
I need the DataStorage as well. 
I solved that by passing the location and storage into JsonMetadata's constructor. 
There is something to be said for being able to reuse the same MetadataLoader to load schemas
for multiple locations, however. Assuming we can't come up with any scenarios where by the
time we need to get the schema, we no longer have the location -- but we might have created
the MetadataLoader beforehand, and set the internal location at that time -- I agree with
the change.

bq. One thought I'd had previously (I can't remember if we discussed this or not) was to add
a Map<String, Object> to it

I have a feeling we did discuss this, or something like this, possibly in a different context,
but I can't find the mention either.   I am not sure what we would gain by this -- the only
consumers of stats would be various optimizers/compilers/translators, right? So they would
need to be updated to deal with new stats, and code that propagates / estimates stats down
a logical plan would need to get updated, whenever a new statistic is added. That sounds pretty
extensive. If we instead assume that any field is nullable (or, if collection, can be empty),
and make sure that all missing fields are filled in as nulls/empties when the stat objects
are deserialized, we should be ok with upgrades.


> Serialize schemas for PigStorage() and other storage types.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: PIG-760
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-760
>             Project: Pig
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>            Reporter: David Ciemiewicz
>            Assignee: Dmitriy V. Ryaboy
>             Fix For: 0.6.0
>
>         Attachments: pigstorageschema-2.patch, pigstorageschema.patch
>
>
> I'm finding PigStorage() really convenient for storage and data interchange because it
compresses well and imports into Excel and other analysis environments well.
> However, it is a pain when it comes to maintenance because the columns are in fixed locations
and I'd like to add columns in some cases.
> It would be great if load PigStorage() could read a default schema from a .schema file
stored with the data and if store PigStorage() could store a .schema file with the data.
> I have tested this out and both Hadoop HDFS and Pig in -exectype local mode will ignore
a file called .schema in a directory of part files.
> So, for example, if I have a chain of Pig scripts I execute such as:
> A = load 'data-1' using PigStorage() as ( a: int , b: int );
> store A into 'data-2' using PigStorage();
> B = load 'data-2' using PigStorage();
> describe B;
> describe B should output something like { a: int, b: int }

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