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From Adam Muise <amu...@hortonworks.com>
Subject Re: Cloudera Vs Hortonworks Vs MapR
Date Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:01:28 GMT
I would just through an additional point on top of Shahab's excellent
summary.

To evaluate a distribution requires more than just the technical aspects of
that distribution. Even if we kept the discussion to the mailing list's
technical Hadoop usage focus, any company/organization looking to use a
distro is going to have to consider the costs, support, platform, partner
ecosystem, market share, company strategy, etc. Even if everyone behaved,
none of the topics I mentioned are appropriate for a Hadoop user mailing
list so you could not make an informed decision from a user list discussion
and you might as well give the vendors a call.

Thanks,

Adam


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Shahab Yunus <shahab.yunus@gmail.com>wrote:

> I think, in my opinion, it is a wrong idea because:
>
> 1- Many of the participants here are employees for these very companies
> that are under discussion. This puts these respective employees in very
> difficult position. It is very hard to come with a correct response.
> Comments can be misconstrued easily.
> 2- Also, when we talk about vendor distributions of the software, it is
> not longer purely about open source. Now companies with the related
> corporate legal baggage also gets in the mix.
> 3- The discussion would be on not only positive things about each vendor
> but in fact negatives. The latter type of  discussion which can get
> unpleasant very easily.
> 4- Somebody mentioned that, this is a very lightly moderated platform and
> thus this discussion should be allowed. I think this is one of the reasons
> that it should not be because, people can say things casually, without much
> thought, or without taking care of the context or the possible
> interpretations and get in trouble.
> 5- The risk here is not only that serious repercussions can occur (which
> very well can) but the greater risk is that it can cause misunderstanding
> between individuals, industries and companies.
> 6-People here lot of time reply quickly just to resolve or help the
> 'technical' issue. Now they will have to take care how they frame the
> response. Re: 4
>
> I know some will feel that I have created a highly exaggerated scenario
> above, but what I am trying to say is that, it is a slippery slope. If we
> allow this then this can go anywhere.
>
> By the way, I do not work for any of these vendors.
>
> More importantly, I am not saying that this discussion should not be had,
> I am just saying that this is a wrong forum.
>
> Just my 2 cents (or,...this was rather a dollar.)
>
> Regards,
> Shahab
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Chris Mattmann <mattmann@apache.org>wrote:
>
>> Errr, what's wrong with discussing these types of issues on list?
>>
>> Nothing public here, and as long as it's kept to facts, this should
>> not be a problem and Apache is a fine place to have such discussions.
>>
>> My 2c.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Xuri Nagarin <secsubs@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "user@hadoop.apache.org" <user@hadoop.apache.org>
>> Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:39 PM
>> To: "user@hadoop.apache.org" <user@hadoop.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Cloudera Vs Hortonworks Vs MapR
>>
>> >I understand it can be contentious issue especially given that a lot of
>> >contributors to this list work for one or the other vendor or have some
>> >stake in any kind of evaluation. But, I see no reason why users should
>> >not be able to compare notes
>> > and share experiences. Over time, genuine pain points or issues or
>> >claims will bubble up and should only help the community. Sure, there
>> >will be a few flame wars but this already isn't a very tightly moderated
>> >list.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Aaron Eng
>> ><aeng@maprtech.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Raj,
>> >
>> >
>> >As others noted, this is not a great place for this discussion.  I'd
>> >suggest contacting the vendors you are interested in as I'm sure we'd all
>> >be happy to provide you more details.
>> >
>> >
>> >I don't know about the others, but for MapR, just send an email to
>> >sales@mapr.com <mailto:sales@mapr.com> and I'm sure someone will get
>> back
>> >to you with more information.
>> >
>> >
>> >Best Regards,
>> >Aaron Eng
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Hadoop Raj <hadoopraj@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >We are trying to evaluate different implementations of Hadoop for our big
>> >data enterprise project.
>> >
>> >Can the forum members advise on what are the advantages and disadvantages
>> >of each implementation i.e. Cloudera Vs Hortonworks Vs MapR.
>> >
>> >Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Raj
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>


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