Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-mapreduce-user-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-mapreduce-user-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 024D7DB52 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66457 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2012 12:04:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-mapreduce-user-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 66134 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2012 12:04:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 66113 invoked by uid 99); 2 Oct 2012 12:04:51 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:04:51 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of michael_segel@hotmail.com designates 65.55.111.96 as permitted sender) Received: from [65.55.111.96] (HELO blu0-omc2-s21.blu0.hotmail.com) (65.55.111.96) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:04:44 +0000 Received: from BLU0-SMTP152 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 2 Oct 2012 05:04:23 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [173.15.87.37] X-EIP: [NMQMTilXDTBI6ymMtxuDiwxe9J+UIjov] X-Originating-Email: [michael_segel@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from [192.168.0.104] ([173.15.87.37]) by BLU0-SMTP152.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 2 Oct 2012 05:04:21 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.1 \(1498\)) Subject: Re: HADOOP in Production From: Michael Segel In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:04:20 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: To: user@hadoop.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1498) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2012 12:04:21.0694 (UTC) FILETIME=[0EC4F5E0:01CDA096] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Funny that the OP asks about 'real time'... This comes up quiet often and its always misunderstood.=20 First, when we say 'real time' many take it to mean subjective real = time. Real 'real time' would require some sort of RTOS underneath.=20 Second Hadoop is a parallelized framework. You have several components = that make up Hadoop. A distributed scheduler, a distributed disk and = tools to manipulate the data.=20 You can use Hadoop in subjective real time scenarios.=20 One common pattern is to use M/R to process the data, and HBase to = deliver ad-hoc access to records returning a result in sub second = response time.=20 I think that there's an upcoming talk at Strata in NY on using Hadoop, = (HBase and SOLR) to provide real time access.=20 Out side of that, yeah Tom White's book is a great start, however, some = of the feedback I've heard it that its a dry read.=20 But then again, most technical books are. :-)=20 On Oct 2, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Ruslan Al-Fakikh = wrote: > Hi, >=20 > There are too many issues to discuss I guess. I would recommend > reading Hadoop The Definitive Guide by Tom White. There are some > chapters for the answers. > Also what did you mean my 'real time"? Hadoop is not designed for > giving real time results of queries. It is rather for offline data > analysis, because each query can take minutes or hours to finish. > AFAIK, HBase provides some real time functionality though. > For Hadoop automation, you can try Oozie. We are using opswise in our = company >=20 > Best Regards >=20 > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:36 PM, yogesh dhari = wrote: >> Hi all, >>=20 >> I have understood the Hadoop and Hadoop Ecosystem(Pig as ETL, Hive as >> DataWare house, Sqoop as importing tool). I worked and learned on = single >> node cluster with demo data. >>=20 >> As Hadoop suits best on Unix platform. Please help me to understand = the >> requirement form start to finish to use Hadoop in production. >>=20 >> What would be the things to use Hadoop on real time project. >>=20 >> like Hadoop automation on Unix, alert of failure process. >>=20 >> Please put some light on using Hadoop on real time and what = objectives are >> recommended. >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks & Regards >> Yogesh Kumar >>=20 >=20