Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-user-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-user-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3415D23B for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 89682 invoked by uid 500); 21 Dec 2012 23:50:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-user-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 89547 invoked by uid 500); 21 Dec 2012 23:50:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 89538 invoked by uid 99); 21 Dec 2012 23:50:28 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:50:28 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of edlinuxguru@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.177 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.177] (HELO mail-ia0-f177.google.com) (209.85.210.177) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:50:22 +0000 Received: by mail-ia0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u21so4444120ial.22 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:50:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kYGc9elfQ+9+4d5xixmqCJR8Pqza9eZ50z1QnBlCg2c=; b=AqNfKTSEH9ucr9xnbxRl53Cu44lYJ7Al/Y1oGbwra3gnufr82gYd5foz9amKVePQg2 5yxqEQ7+Wy9Zmyy6PXfavS1oFKN81bV64L3xLA9ComXRGuiwzEw17Kq9n8xq3fdk05l+ 4hl8hUoA9iUpOLHAyt3nHA+gDVm3QScMTbPPpBONaqcv5m9oFC06PKv8ISKINJZMZVqY tJWj8idBe02iFTcq1ZEaMOoXvUDTWbYk46ji2iVk1J58f72bU6aS1CqPO4OlC1QHLgHq LbirJ26+C8nhypAUCFzGbgrwKWMO/s8sAaW5xICOvDGhPLLQJUCeqX7p1oSpKWbiT4Qg 6dGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.85.170 with SMTP id i10mr14725167igz.14.1356133802477; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.97.106 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:50:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <50D4BA88.5080206@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What should I do with a 48-node cluster From: Edward Capriolo To: "user@hadoop.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3b9b579088fb04d1658108 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --e89a8f3b9b579088fb04d1658108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Three year old blade center is ok. A three year old blade is probably a 64 bit machine. 2 to 4 gb RAM 2 SCSI disks. Maybe two socket two core. Two blade centers is about 8u or a quarter cabinet and you can find a hosting provider in your price range. Especially if you can get the hardware at a low initial cost you crush the cloud providers. Buying your own gear takes about a year to recoup costs over amazons pay per use model. Blade centers are usually 20 to 30 amp fully loaded though so if your crushing word count at home your power bill is gonna get $. On Friday, December 21, 2012, Mark Kerzner wrote: > True! > > I am thinking of either my (small) office, or actually hosting for under $500/month. > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Lance Norskog wrote: >> >> You will also be raided by the DEA- too much power for a residence. >> >> On 12/20/2012 07:56 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Michael Segel wrote: >>> >>> While Ted ignores that the world is going to end before X-Mas, he does hit the crux of the matter head on. >>> If you don't have a place to put it, the cost of setting it up would kill you, not to mention that you can get newer hardware which is better suited for less. >>> Having said that... if you live in the frozen tundra like Montana, or some place like ... er Canada or Siberia... , it may make more sense to use it to heat your home with it. >>> Just think of the side benefits from all that potential additional compute power.... :-P >> >> I can say from experience that the sound of a bunch of servers in a home setting is a novel one that is probably unlike anything you have known before. >> If you haven't experienced that, then taking on these servers could be classified as novelty seeking behavior. > > --e89a8f3b9b579088fb04d1658108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Three year old blade center is ok. A three year old blade is probably a 64 = bit machine. 2 to 4 gb RAM 2 SCSI disks. Maybe two socket two core. Two bla= de centers is about 8u or a quarter cabinet and you can find a hosting prov= ider in your price range.

Especially if you can get the hardware at a low initial cost you crush = the cloud providers. Buying your own gear takes about a year to recoup cost= s over amazons pay per use model.

Blade centers are usually 20 to 3= 0 amp fully loaded though so if your crushing word count at home your power= bill is gonna get $.


On Friday, December 21, 2012, Mark Kerzner <mark.kerzner@shmsoft.com> wrote:
> Tru= e!
>
> I am thinking of either my (small) office, or actually h= osting for under $500/month.
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Lance Norskog <goksron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
&= gt;> You will also be raided by the DEA- too much power for a residence.=
>>
>> On 12/20/2012 07:56 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>=
>>
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>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Micha= el Segel <michael_segel@hot= mail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> While Ted ignores that the world is going to e= nd before X-Mas, he does hit the crux of the matter head on.=A0
>>= > If you don't have a place to put it, the cost of setting it up wou= ld kill you, not to mention that you can get newer hardware which is better= suited for less.=A0
>>> Having said that... if you live in the frozen tundra like Mont= ana, or some place like ... er Canada or Siberia... , it may make more sens= e to use it to heat your home with it.=A0
>>> Just think of the= side benefits from all that potential additional compute power.... =A0:-P<= br> >>
>> I can say from experience that the sound of a bunch of= servers in a home setting is a novel one that is probably unlike anything = you have known before.
>> If you haven't experienced that, the= n taking on these servers could be classified as novelty seeking behavior.<= br> >
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