Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-user-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-user-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 802CC9987 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 45248 invoked by uid 500); 11 Oct 2011 17:20:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-user-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 45209 invoked by uid 500); 11 Oct 2011 17:20:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact hdfs-user-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: hdfs-user@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list hdfs-user@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 45201 invoked by uid 99); 11 Oct 2011 17:20:31 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:20:31 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [128.104.28.3] (HELO hep.wisc.edu) (128.104.28.3) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:20:23 +0000 Received: from burko.lfod.us (lass.hep.wisc.edu [128.104.28.249]) by hep.wisc.edu (8.14.3/8.13.4/pmx) with ESMTP id p9BHK08q015888 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:20:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:20:00 -0500 From: Will Maier To: hdfs-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: blocks with a huge size? Message-ID: <20111011172000.GX5600@burko.lfod.us> References: <201110111039.46437.vin.boucher@gmail.com> <20111011104241.GW5600@burko.lfod.us> <201110111912.56559.vin.boucher@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="KZLWU/9q3evlN4nQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201110111912.56559.vin.boucher@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --KZLWU/9q3evlN4nQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Vincent- On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 07:12:55PM +0200, Vincent Boucher wrote: > Indeed, it's a similar setup, at a smaller scale: Tier2 for CMS at UCLouv= ain, > Belgium, with data&sim from the whole collaboration; stageout files from = the > Grid for our local users ... It's always nice to see other CMS sites get involved with HDFS! [...] > For us, it is difficult to set a 2x replication while maintaining the cur= rent > amount of data we serve to the Collaboration. >=20 > An alternative would be to switch the mass storage servers with currently= one > large ZFS partition each to servers with as many independent partitions a= s the > # of drives they host (typical # of drives per server: 70); and set at the > Hadoop level a 2x replication. The volume freed by killing the RAID is not > enough to compensate the replication but that would be a first step. In fact, we run with exactly this configuration on our larger servers: each= disk is its own RAID0 with a single partition (and 2x replication overall). This JBOD style is sensitive to disk failure, though the upcoming version is les= s so. At our site, we work around the issue by dynamically reconfiguring the dfs.data.dir parameter in hdfs-site.xml: http://hg.hep.wisc.edu/cmsops/hdfs/file/tip/bin/dfs-datadir.sh Feel free to contact me offlist if you have questions more specific to runn= ing HDFS in CMS. Good luck! --=20 Will Maier - UW High Energy Physics cel: 608.438.6162 tel: 608.263.9692 web: http://www.hep.wisc.edu/~wcmaier/ --KZLWU/9q3evlN4nQ Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIIKzQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIKvjCCCroCAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC CCMwggP4MIIC4KADAgECAgEpMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMHUxEzARBgoJkiaJk/IsZAEZFgNu ZXQxEjAQBgoJkiaJk/IsZAEZFgJFUzEOMAwGA1UEChMFRVNuZXQxIDAeBgNVBAsTF0NlcnRp ZmljYXRlIEF1dGhvcml0aWVzMRgwFgYDVQQDEw9FU25ldCBSb290IENBIDEwHhcNMDIxMjA1 MDgwMDAwWhcNMTMwMTI1MDgwMDAwWjBpMRMwEQYKCZImiZPyLGQBGRYDb3JnMRgwFgYKCZIm iZPyLGQBGRYIRE9FR3JpZHMxIDAeBgNVBAsTF0NlcnRpZmljYXRlIEF1dGhvcml0aWVzMRYw FAYDVQQDEw1ET0VHcmlkcyBDQSAxMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEA tPXWI2Gj2wg+ZrW4kG+ymt8tagJtGXKighXIlnH3vCsHLsvbYx7iLC3/WSLXZA1uMcvLLmvZ yZcdypcI7bpkzLTrYN+SmQpJ1HfCjOFRk0hXS1RvQGzWsnn++nGlQhjNfo8hdC6tN5Grhjj0 3DX2XtU2Wt3tXPa3PJY1eTklmv5n7AgAskucxSFrtMiAzciXX/p9IcGjzed8JZaSd9LWg/iQ Y0O4dpOMUVs3ms5yzm/Ts7WVUQP9bFc3vonMxYdscGuFXRstHiCD8NaX72MMTt+q5tEtdPar 27DZWq6D0W8XqzympEC6SntN+F3Me4AT6lJPxcaEUVop+RFjd68/SwIDAQABo4GeMIGbMA4G A1UdDwEB/wQEAwIBhjARBglghkgBhvhCAQEEBAMCAIcwHQYDVR0OBBYEFMoZHRKObqQ4XULU MQ4I29mNFw1dMB8GA1UdIwQYMBaAFLxdTUgv+DWUWatciUs+0bI6FAHqMA8GA1UdEwEB/wQF MAMBAf8wJQYDVR0RBB4wHIEaRE9FR3JpZHMtQ0EtMUBkb2Vncmlkcy5vcmcwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEFBQADggEBAGTVayAy6nt/QhDoibe0OxKQT4QIoTLw00n/+NrtEjG1JgocMOJi5qYeQwYI WVFRfGJ+fZEWTJ9UCzrTtR8y6rwLzyE2nGVT5SYBtiF85Uet+mIIWRQMnGyFBDiQwR0eL7UD tSg8YGcLwG7ZiiKMb4VAqtsbHxbfZAgQZ/iWLUOjuS7ASatz5rrm3jHHO5m0AHyWe4f90IIY JBSIZhNfiwVzyW5Lj/L4H4OodgSqAH+UxX2RAoBmSopnzdddLQb33nRmcGGHd/xrCXPNwdCT dYJ8tIKjVT5t/dlHIVxngUax55toJISJK+PDquhJjRlff2ul326ZUFvyVm7T1T1pGoswggQj MIIDC6ADAgECAgMA1hgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwaTETMBEGCgmSJomT8ixkARkWA29yZzEY MBYGCgmSJomT8ixkARkWCERPRUdyaWRzMSAwHgYDVQQLExdDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBBdXRob3Jp dGllczEWMBQGA1UEAxMNRE9FR3JpZHMgQ0EgMTAeFw0xMTAzMjExMTM5MzBaFw0xMjAzMjAx MTM5MzBaMFwxEzARBgoJkiaJk/IsZAEZFgNvcmcxGDAWBgoJkiaJk/IsZAEZFghkb2Vncmlk czEPMA0GA1UECxMGUGVvcGxlMRowGAYDVQQDExFXaWxsIE1haWVyIDI4NjMwMjCCASIwDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBANTfF+rPM01Oi98ATaHgr6qRzoJEEObGjq7XvXNK pgX9+tFzAUWxAbS2FZjgAmgzB4Qc/tlBW9GcE8xSIoNqK4BD9jcjDZ/RHILKPcVmC78BgO+c XK73iJVwFEONWC85wZwwTB0a2c+/jXepMRTkF5lsS9B+eTMcoWI2+3CJcaQvURXrrwiLdnbu Z5vhzPmlRtz/cJyVNQfuP3gZ4g0/52i9cc8ymfOy3TVdjBD8LtlR+by55O3kOwRpN+g8L54o PD/eGEWvCVlv8UdLrTy8TbIsyhuxEbmzA088P37mWh6Gfc78bVHyMJurLaoOHCzoZr2IWNxf HYaIxw2sRIgiuEUCAwEAAaOB4DCB3TARBglghkgBhvhCAQEEBAMCBaAwDgYDVR0PAQH/BAQD AgTwMDYGA1UdIAQvMC0wDQYLKoZIhvdMAwcBAwEwDAYKKoZIhvdMBQICATAOBgwqhkiG90wF AgMCAQEwPgYDVR0fBDcwNTAzoDGgL4YtaHR0cDovL2NybC5kb2Vncmlkcy5vcmcvMWMzZjJj YTgvMWMzZjJjYTguY3JsMB8GA1UdEQQYMBaBFHdjbWFpZXJAaGVwLndpc2MuZWR1MB8GA1Ud IwQYMBaAFMoZHRKObqQ4XULUMQ4I29mNFw1dMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4IBAQCfWXG31UVk 0wWDWWMvJEdUSq1NP6JamSGQRwQBoJ00OdkKY9n+UzevoUiHpTii5kFlxvBUHa+i0hq7wh5k MwNF5y+8CsRWSD/bRhR30K+2KLyPvpJ2ZbJL9NSVSqVK44ZMquwExzMaktEJlHXY2Y/B51+T 5fWYvHgxzYH7rb1bg1WzFmqlRhimygEOuDCI65ZdaRcBxGU/5UyPJKZmaN3SZH1FAEePfFgl OHGJCcrIz5lNoGjfENWroeTj8TXU+fbIqvFi64IB/3SOY8fd1PyYI0cGfTOo8VBw2UBokcPP AkF7t+GQTjAr2a8g+fNr+TEKeWB3I8ShWQRn4/Qsw4xWMYICcjCCAm4CAQEwcDBpMRMwEQYK CZImiZPyLGQBGRYDb3JnMRgwFgYKCZImiZPyLGQBGRYIRE9FR3JpZHMxIDAeBgNVBAsTF0Nl cnRpZmljYXRlIEF1dGhvcml0aWVzMRYwFAYDVQQDEw1ET0VHcmlkcyBDQSAxAgMA1hgwCQYF Kw4DAhoFAKCB2DAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0x MTEwMTExNzIwMDBaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBQCTd9pHtq3OwXzBtTEIGXSd3SD+zB5Bgkq hkiG9w0BCQ8xbDBqMAsGCWCGSAFlAwQBKjALBglghkgBZQMEARYwCwYJYIZIAWUDBAECMAoG CCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggq hkiG9w0DAgIBKDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQCDJDPGnoLL35Uw3Rw2EsPA/Bn4+yk0kmRM Rwodz9qKd8t5oWZRKuFr7CnFMjrpH5dYVqEztsyXk6YSsaCjK9MXrTWbMSMQyn4nh+nWiWzj RwSoaaBZT8lfSi3ZshOtZy3uAraonnsIl5F2wYLsHGRKzvUuvUoM+ivL0J0sNL1xHId0dfk9 E72WvVg10SZ8T2XyZqozphUMa/QzUIY1uTzVXKInEkHdawRX6KRUBiFZZ2X/dTCLGWGWL7dt WpBapTWP71MtnPSQrWV2PF14ZcIwOQScMZ3SarKob8MQhts51wfYbQtVE3NAZhitJKGpNu4u mxUiJQAnB6Y9Gh8J3Y8S --KZLWU/9q3evlN4nQ--