Also, if you have the program you used to do the insertions, and could attach it, I'd be interested in trying to replicate this on a test cluster. If you can't redistribute it, I can start from scratch, but would be easier to run yours.


On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Todd Lipcon <> wrote:
Hi Zlatin,

This is a very interesting test you've run, and certainly not expected results. I know of many clusters happily chugging along with millions of blocks, so problems at 400K are very strange. By any chance were you able to collect profiling information from the NameNode while running this test?

That said, I hope you've set the block size to 1KB for the purpose of this test and not because you expect to run that in production. Recommended block sizes are at least 64MB and often 128MB or 256MB for larger clusters.


On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM, <> wrote:

I am testing how HDFS scales with very large number of blocks.  I did
the following setup:

Set the default blocks size to 1KB
Started 8 insert processes, each inserting a 16MB file
Repeated the insert 3 times, keeping the already inserted files in HDFS
Repeated the entire experiment on one cluster with 4 and another with 11
identical datanodes (allocated through HOD)

The first 128MB (2^18 blocks) insert finished in 5 minutes.  The second
in 12 minutes.  The third didn't finish within 1 hour.  The 11-node
cluster was marginally faster.

Throughout this I was storing all available metrics.  There were no
signs of insufficient memory on any of the nodes; CPU usage and garbage
collections were constant throughout.  If anyone is interested I can
provide the recorded metrics.  I've attached a chart that looks clearly

Can anyone please point to what could be the bottleneck here?  I'm
evaluating HDFS for usage scenarios requiring 2^(a lot more than 18)

Bes <<insertion_rate_4_and_11_datanodes.JPG>> t Regards,
Zlatin Balevsky


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