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From "Ayush Saxena (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (HDFS-12405) Clean up removed erasure coding policies from namenode
Date Sun, 03 Feb 2019 12:25:00 GMT

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Ayush Saxena commented on HDFS-12405:
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Thanx Everyone for the discussion.

bq.  Why do we have to clean up the removed policies? I think NameNode's restart is not frequently
enough so clean up at that time can only cover a little portion of policies, so clean up them
when NameNode restart would suffice? 

Correct!!! I guess doing it at the time of namenode restart doesn't seem to cover all and
as said namenode restart isn't a frequent operation.

Regarding the cleanup. Current behavior according to me for removed policy is just like a
disabled policy which can't be enabled. Doesn't make sense to keep it up like that. There
is one more problem with keeping it. Presently we have a limit to number of user defined policies
that we can have which is 64 once reached the threshold we can't add more. Even if we call
remove policy still it won't clean so we wont't be able to add any more. IMO we can add an
extra parameter -clean or say -force with remove policy which should clean up the policy too
while removing. I guess that should solve the above said bottleneck problem too.

Regrading the check if some file is using that EC policy that is for sure an heavy operation
but if an admin wants to be sure before doing so can do it  by using ls command with -e option
and grep the policy.

> Clean up removed erasure coding policies from namenode
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HDFS-12405
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-12405
>             Project: Hadoop HDFS
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: erasure-coding
>            Reporter: Sammi Chen
>            Assignee: Huafeng Wang
>            Priority: Major
>              Labels: hdfs-ec-3.0-nice-to-have
>
> Currently, when an erasure coding policy is removed, it's been transited to "removed"
state. User cannot apply policy with "removed" state to file/directory anymore.  The policy
cannot be safely removed from the system unless we know there are no existing files or directories
that use this "removed" policy. To find out whether there are files or directories which are
using the policy is time consuming in runtime and might impact the Namenode performance. So
a better choice is doing the work when NameNode restarts and loads Inodes. Collecting the
information at that time will not introduce much extra overhead. 



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