Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-issues-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-issues-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEF9718740 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 00:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7030 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2015 00:04:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-issues-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 6971 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2015 00:04:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact hdfs-issues-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: hdfs-issues@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list hdfs-issues@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 6955 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jul 2015 00:04:11 -0000 Received: from arcas.apache.org (HELO arcas.apache.org) (140.211.11.28) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:04:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 00:04:11 +0000 (UTC) From: "Jing Zhao (JIRA)" To: hdfs-issues@hadoop.apache.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [jira] [Commented] (HDFS-7285) Erasure Coding Support inside HDFS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-JIRA-FingerPrint: 30527f35849b9dde25b450d4833f0394 [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-7285?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14617695#comment-14617695 ] Jing Zhao commented on HDFS-7285: --------------------------------- Similar for the changes on INodeFile. In general I suggest let's try our best to separate the code change from the merging. We're now merging the changes from trunk back to HDFS-7285, thus it will be much faster and safer to make the merged code same with the current HDFS-7285 branch. For all the other changes we can do them later as subtasks under HDFS-7285. > Erasure Coding Support inside HDFS > ---------------------------------- > > Key: HDFS-7285 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-7285 > Project: Hadoop HDFS > Issue Type: New Feature > Reporter: Weihua Jiang > Assignee: Zhe Zhang > Attachments: Consolidated-20150707.patch, ECAnalyzer.py, ECParser.py, HDFS-7285-initial-PoC.patch, HDFS-7285-merge-consolidated-01.patch, HDFS-7285-merge-consolidated-trunk-01.patch, HDFS-7285-merge-consolidated.trunk.03.patch, HDFS-7285-merge-consolidated.trunk.04.patch, HDFS-EC-Merge-PoC-20150624.patch, HDFS-EC-merge-consolidated-01.patch, HDFS-bistriped.patch, HDFSErasureCodingDesign-20141028.pdf, HDFSErasureCodingDesign-20141217.pdf, HDFSErasureCodingDesign-20150204.pdf, HDFSErasureCodingDesign-20150206.pdf, HDFSErasureCodingPhaseITestPlan.pdf, fsimage-analysis-20150105.pdf > > > Erasure Coding (EC) can greatly reduce the storage overhead without sacrifice of data reliability, comparing to the existing HDFS 3-replica approach. For example, if we use a 10+4 Reed Solomon coding, we can allow loss of 4 blocks, with storage overhead only being 40%. This makes EC a quite attractive alternative for big data storage, particularly for cold data. > Facebook had a related open source project called HDFS-RAID. It used to be one of the contribute packages in HDFS but had been removed since Hadoop 2.0 for maintain reason. The drawbacks are: 1) it is on top of HDFS and depends on MapReduce to do encoding and decoding tasks; 2) it can only be used for cold files that are intended not to be appended anymore; 3) the pure Java EC coding implementation is extremely slow in practical use. Due to these, it might not be a good idea to just bring HDFS-RAID back. > We (Intel and Cloudera) are working on a design to build EC into HDFS that gets rid of any external dependencies, makes it self-contained and independently maintained. This design lays the EC feature on the storage type support and considers compatible with existing HDFS features like caching, snapshot, encryption, high availability and etc. This design will also support different EC coding schemes, implementations and policies for different deployment scenarios. By utilizing advanced libraries (e.g. Intel ISA-L library), an implementation can greatly improve the performance of EC encoding/decoding and makes the EC solution even more attractive. We will post the design document soon. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332)