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From "Haohui Mai (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (HDFS-7207) libhdfs3 should not expose exceptions in public C++ API
Date Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:35:34 GMT

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Haohui Mai commented on HDFS-7207:
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bq. That is the C way-- manual allocation and de-allocation. So if we're going to do the same
here, it makes me wonder why we need a new interface.

I believe that the value of a good C\+\+ interface is more than correctly handling memory
allocation. Many C\+\+ applications appreciate the integration and the simplicity of a native,
properly designed C\+\+ interface. I understand that you're not a C++ fan, but there are many
users are interested in a native C\+\+ interface. libhdfs3 should address these use cases.

bq. I guess you could argue that it allows us to detect use-after-free, but this is something
that valgrind and ASAN do a great job detecting already, and without runtime overhead in production.

Talking about the issue of memory allocation -- currently the {{FileSystem}} is a {{shared_ptr}}
in the interface. I think that this is a detail on how libhdfs is managing the object, but
not a part of the interface.

As you mentioned, exposing this detail might force the users to run tools like valgrind to
detect leaks. It is impractical to use valgrind in many real-world use cases -- valgrind can
easily slows the program down for 20x. See http://groups.csail.mit.edu/commit/papers/2011/bruening-cgo11-drmemory.pdf

> libhdfs3 should not expose exceptions in public C++ API
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HDFS-7207
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-7207
>             Project: Hadoop HDFS
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>            Reporter: Haohui Mai
>            Assignee: Colin Patrick McCabe
>            Priority: Blocker
>         Attachments: HDFS-7207.001.patch
>
>
> There are three major disadvantages of exposing exceptions in the public API:
> * Exposing exceptions in public APIs forces the downstream users to be compiled with
{{-fexceptions}}, which might be infeasible in many use cases.
> * It forces other bindings to properly handle all C++ exceptions, which might be infeasible
especially when the binding is generated by tools like SWIG.
> * It forces the downstream users to properly handle all C++ exceptions, which can be
cumbersome as in certain cases it will lead to undefined behavior (e.g., throwing an exception
in a destructor is undefined.)



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