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From "Suresh Srinivas (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (HDFS-5434) Write resiliency for replica count 1
Date Mon, 16 Dec 2013 18:49:08 GMT

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Suresh Srinivas commented on HDFS-5434:
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Some comments:
bq. Server-side enforcement of pipeline size also seems somewhat more complementary to where
HDFS is headed with server-side tiered storage policies (HDFS-4672).
I am not sure what you mean here. Can you add more details?

bq.  sort of assumed when I read this JIRA that Eric was considering situations where the
admin "knows" that the storage is reliable despite having only one replica. For example, if
there is RAID and we trust it, or if the backend storage system which the DataNode is using
is doing replication underneath HDFS.
I think if HDFS claims support for this, RAID setup without spare disks to rebuild the array
could cause more data loss.

I feel that this looks more like a hack. Perhaps this configuration should be for now hidden.
Also I want to see a patch to make sure that this does not add unnecessary complexity to the
HDFS code, given this is not the use case that is common for HDFS. I know that you have already
commented that it is not ideal, but doing this is as client only (hopefully this can be made
pluggable) functionality, where client on file closure reduces the replication count to 1
may be workable.

> Write resiliency for replica count 1
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HDFS-5434
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-5434
>             Project: Hadoop HDFS
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: namenode
>    Affects Versions: 2.2.0
>            Reporter: Buddy
>            Priority: Minor
>
> If a file has a replica count of one, the HDFS client is exposed to write failures if
the data node fails during a write. With a pipeline of size of one, no recovery is possible
if the sole data node dies.
> A simple fix is to force a minimum pipeline size of 2, while leaving the replication
count as 1. The implementation for this is fairly non-invasive.
> Although the replica count is one, the block will be written to two data nodes instead
of one. If one of the data nodes fails during the write, normal pipeline recovery will ensure
that the write succeeds to the surviving data node.
> The existing code in the name node will prune the extra replica when it receives the
block received reports for the finalized block from both data nodes. This results in the intended
replica count of one for the block.
> This behavior should be controlled by a configuration option such as {{dfs.namenode.minPipelineSize}}.
> This behavior can be implemented in {{FSNameSystem.getAdditionalBlock()}} by ensuring
that the pipeline size passed to {{BlockPlacementPolicy.chooseTarget()}} in the replication
parameter is:
> {code}
> max(replication, ${dfs.namenode.minPipelineSize})
> {code}



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