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From "Brian Bockelman (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (HDFS-343) Better Target selection for block replication
Date Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:15:59 GMT

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Brian Bockelman commented on HDFS-343:
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Been there, done that - bad idea.  The following are the biggest bad effects:

1) You completely hammer new nodes.  I've got a system which implements this policy and it's
difficult to bring up new nodes, because they are immediately crushed by the onslaught of
transfers
2) If you don't randomly place blocks, you get patterns embedded in your system.  For example,
if you have a dataset that's placed on HDFS and the policy places it on a non-random subset
of nodes, then the likelihood of you overloading the nodes later by analyzing the whole dataset
at once is pretty high.  A random placement policy would spread the dataset out much better,
decreasing the correlations in the system.

This is from practical experience.  Random placement is very, very good - especially for larger
systems.  If you want random placement + balanced nodes, run the balancer to smooth things
out asynchronously.

If you absolutely want this behavior, check into the pluggable placement framework in the
0.21.x series.

> Better Target selection for block replication
> ---------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HDFS-343
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-343
>             Project: Hadoop HDFS
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Enis Soztutar
>
> Block replication policy tends to balance the number of blocks in each datanode in the
long run, however with heterogeneous clusters with varying number of disks per node, the nodes
with one disk fill quickly while nodes with 3 disks still have 60% free disk space. This also
reduces the advantage of using more than one disk for parallel IO, since machines with multiple
disks are not used as much.
> The javadoc of the ReplicationTargetChooser reads as : 
> The replica placement strategy is that if the writer is on a datanode, the 1st replica
is placed on the local machine, otherwise a random datanode. The 2nd replica is placed on
a datanode that is on a different rack. The 3rd replica is placed on a datanode which is on
the same rack as the first replica.
> I think we should switch to a policy that balances the percent of disk usage rather than
balancing total block count among the datanodes. This can be done by defining the probability
of selection of a datanode based on its disk percent usage. A formula like 1 - (percent_usage
/ 100 ) seems reasonable. 

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