From hdfs-dev-return-38279-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@hadoop.apache.org Tue Sep 3 00:35:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 009CE180658 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 02:35:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 7989 invoked by uid 500); 3 Sep 2019 00:52:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact hdfs-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 7921 invoked by uid 99); 3 Sep 2019 00:52:08 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Sep 2019 00:52:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 54A691A3368; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 00:35:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.8 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-he-de.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nrncE2ykubXs; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 00:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::133; helo=mail-lf1-x133.google.com; envelope-from=wheeleast@gmail.com; receiver= Received: from mail-lf1-x133.google.com (mail-lf1-x133.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::133]) by mx1-he-de.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-he-de.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 8E6FF7DD31; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 00:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x133.google.com with SMTP id c12so11467717lfh.5; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 17:35:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vjcF46MQAljg6hS2csQ1hFy7OgMksdwrVp3P+MwQr0c=; b=g7cxQig4iJ8rE/i7Jy7KuyG8kzsvbD4rrZbq8HBys3DHCxxaFaCWniZvTmvayyW176 ypq3hI9j6V1GYRJFCER3YbEZcC91VenSDqwnlviYBVYeQl5fsIlDLjczbtf0JtuDJHvF 9pqmVnTxC5xWHe15K+VDkQU/T8b0Zn0XhuAarkRDXcgmKpdOUnRb8LKalU2pUyFmIunE OlaYCinIJfa25kp9rKJrd/o/LxhZeD6d7o2frH7oea1OZGwMP6LYpR/uHa4toZnOZJ9A J5VnG70ZrDEEuxwFMMLM4nKQrbvhqvaItD/IvZum4OydFyIHZ1QuHSn329B9HJOfnLTU XKSw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vjcF46MQAljg6hS2csQ1hFy7OgMksdwrVp3P+MwQr0c=; b=gFqYuq0VkS0+7/Q/6OkS21KQjmxHMOov4RhluAjmeljajnOrpLpMeM48vo9CfcZJoS 7aaR0Wr5gYEAcWLSZtiv74jf7bv46LcsA/cLB2htG6fsl5vTrw1I7q8ZDGEafTTrtjyY suY/XtisF+1ebQevOJHZdIPAH8xkxdQ5RXrYb/8PlBaJNPAz+ciMMmrW/aVC3KjPgzFv W68dcHe6oaAY+Pa9AJ5Pws31WM2Eqbv3GZ89/M9+gw2gEIq6DJbbEeCXxNHvG5lod5ZR KD8x53OT8Jnwit9boVRWGSkD0RGL4nriagmTGSCXFQZvGmSQdDVPUegyKMUf7jOucnB4 K2OQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX6lMa5usZji6wHdkHoJNfsZXCxmzFeJqIBG/Cg8/KNBSL2nzq6 4FxN+h7CGDwOyW2p0F8VZPLvAis0vek4mmlcoTs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwn2bxmL/jvDEcVz7PjFx9PqTyDdY00Dg95eC0vQ6w5NoknBiKTivRCo0K7fM9eqWAHGisbpTiJ+79i60ozfHk= X-Received: by 2002:a19:cc4f:: with SMTP id c76mr15074689lfg.117.1567470947660; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 17:35:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8930127.658935.1567371845042@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <8930127.658935.1567371845042@mail.yahoo.com> From: Wangda Tan Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 17:35:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] Moving Submarine to a separate Apache project proposal To: Sree Vaddi Cc: yarn-dev , Hdfs-dev , mapreduce-dev , submarine-dev , Hadoop Common , "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000007f99105919b457d" --00000000000007f99105919b457d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Sree, I put it to the proposal, please let me know what you think: The traditional path at Apache would have been to create an incubator > project, but the code is already being released by Apache and most of the > developers are familiar with Apache rules and guidelines. In particular, > the proposed PMC has 2 Apache TLP PMCs and proposed initial committers > have 4 Apache TLP PMCs (from 3 different companies). They will provide > oversight and guidance for the developers that are less experienced in the > Apache Way. Therefore, the Submarine project would like to propose becoming > a Top Level Project at Apache. > To me, putting to TLP has mostly pros, it is an easier process (same as ORC spin-off from Hive), much less overhead to both dev community and Apache side. Thanks, Wangda On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 2:04 PM Sree Vaddi wrote: > +1 to move submarine to separate apache project. > > It is not clear in the proposal, if submarine majority voted to move to a > seperate apache project, > will it go through the incubation and TLP (top level project) later ? > 1. Incubation > pros and cons > efforts towards making it a TLP > > 2. direct TLP > > > Thank you. > /Sree > > > > > On Saturday, August 31, 2019, 10:19:06 PM PDT, Wangda Tan < > wheeleast@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > As we discussed in the previous thread [1], > > I just moved the spin-off proposal to CWIKI and completed all TODO parts. > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HADOOP/Submarine+Project+Spin-Off+to+TLP+Proposal > > If you have interests to learn more about this. Please review the proposal > let me know if you have any questions/suggestions for the proposal. This > will be sent to board post voting passed. (And please note that the > previous voting thread [2] to move Submarine to a separate Github repo is a > necessary effort to move Submarine to a separate Apache project but not > sufficient so I sent two separate voting thread.) > > Please let me know if I missed anyone in the proposal, and reply if you'd > like to be included in the project. > > This voting runs for 7 days and will be concluded at Sep 7th, 11 PM PDT. > > Thanks, > Wangda Tan > > [1] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4a2210d567cbc05af92c12aa6283fd09b857ce209d537986ed800029@%3Cyarn-dev.hadoop.apache.org%3E > [2] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6e94469ca105d5a15dc63903a541bd21c7ef70b8bcff475a16b5ed73@%3Cyarn-dev.hadoop.apache.org%3E > --00000000000007f99105919b457d--