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MIME-Version: 1.0 x-echoworx-msg-id: 8615e63e-1df6-4c2e-80a3-f6623c00e622 x-echoworx-emg-received: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:36:10.012 -0700 x-echoworx-message-code-hashed: a9f2515fe63206b048f281a0abaaf1a7d8333dab00ca2b62d349e575de54e1d3 x-echoworx-action: delivered Received: from 10.254.155.14 ([10.254.155.14]) by emg-ca-1-1 (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.2) with SMTP ID 343; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MBX080-W4-CO-1.exch080.serverpod.net (unknown [10.224.117.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by emg-ca-1-1.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6B3A53EDB; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MBX080-W4-CO-2.exch080.serverpod.net (10.224.117.102) by MBX080-W4-CO-1.exch080.serverpod.net (10.224.117.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:36:08 -0700 Received: from MBX080-W4-CO-2.exch080.serverpod.net ([10.224.117.102]) by mbx080-w4-co-2.exch080.serverpod.net ([10.224.117.102]) with mapi id 15.00.1178.000; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:36:08 -0700 From: Junping Du To: "Aaron T. Myers" CC: Andrew Wang , "common-dev@hadoop.apache.org" , "hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org" , "mapreduce-dev@hadoop.apache.org" , "yarn-dev@hadoop.apache.org" Thread-Topic: Why there are so many revert operations on trunk? Thread-Index: AQHRv/1V6he6qAueg06qIPCRr0jnCp/dCn6A//+PVhY= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:36:08 +0000 Message-ID: <1465231154205.38002@hortonworks.com> References: <1465223008024.45875@hortonworks.com>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [149.18.91.103] x-source-routing-agent: Processed Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_146523115420538002hortonworkscom_" archived-at: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 16:36:21 -0000 --_000_146523115420538002hortonworkscom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Aaron for pointing it out. I didn't see any consensus on HDFS-9924 s= o I think we should bring it here with broader audiences for more discussio= ns. I saw several very bad practices here: 1. committer (no need to say who) revert all commits from trunk without mak= ing consensus with all related contributors/committers. 2. Someone's comments on feature branch are very misleading... If I didn't = remember wrong, feature development doesn't have to go through feature bran= ch which is just an optional process. This creative process of feature bran= ch and branch committer - I believe the intention is trying to accelerate f= eatures development but not to slow them down. 3. Someone (again, no need to say who) seems to claim himself as RM for tru= nk. I don't think we need any RM for trunk. Even for RM of 3.0.0-alpha, I t= hink we need someone else who demonstrates he/she is more responsible, work= hardly and carefully and open communication with all community. Only throu= gh this, the success of Hadoop in age of 3.0 are guranteed. Thanks, Junping ________________________________ From: Aaron T. Myers Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 4:46 PM To: Junping Du Cc: Andrew Wang; common-dev@hadoop.apache.org; hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org; = mapreduce-dev@hadoop.apache.org; yarn-dev@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: Why there are so many revert operations on trunk? Junping, All of this is being discussed on HDFS-9924. Suggest you follow the convers= ation there. -- Aaron T. Myers Software Engineer, Cloudera On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 7:20 AM, Junping Du > wrote: Hi Andrew, I just noticed you revert 8 commits on trunk last Friday: HADOOP-13226 HDFS-10430 HDFS-10431 HDFS-10390 HADOOP-13168 HDFS-10390 HADOOP-13168 HDFS-10346 HADOOP-12957 HDFS-10224 And I didn't see you have any comments on JIRA or email discussion befor= e you did this. I don't think we are legally allowed to do this even as com= mitter/PMC member. Can you explain what's your intention to do this? BTW, thanks Nicolas to revert all these "illegal" revert operations. Thanks, Junping --_000_146523115420538002hortonworkscom_--