Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDF5FE760 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54198 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jun 2013 00:24:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-dev-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 54126 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jun 2013 00:24:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact hdfs-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 54118 invoked by uid 99); 25 Jun 2013 00:24:46 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:24:46 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of shv.hadoop@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.41 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.41] (HELO mail-la0-f41.google.com) (209.85.215.41) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:24:40 +0000 Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fn20so11289836lab.14 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:24:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pnjdK2+0P4fOuErvEw+9pq/46MSBrMh/1Ki5Gz3/Ga4=; b=IFuNkkOInxF74M8SOVnQirolIoktTCppUhZauTucVbPvkHPLDgQILkOtrA0Mqp7dQ5 wckrcr78YFvRiyYWXvP8HUx6EKx8SkEBiiPAYtMhLFDweU0A56t9LORrKnD35MCxj8Ky g4iA6OYxfOwy2irSJRPcEH6zeH3++ln2jtHj9v4z8Hx7I+tG3wt6ElEQLN9+cq7xXRCP TZyGfpiLX9BH/U4oDd/5bQ4ippZZ3ElW712DIyAam88IJSva3F70TXuRAS/W7nbk+eCm 2a5JuvYReQYMo+mXvdiw7HDLtGj/qllkCDf9Vx/E+YfqE/XjcPQPLIGdlovfN87Lr25R T4GA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.26.2 with SMTP id h2mr12665027lag.52.1372119859666; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.115.73 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:24:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <15E8B272-ED57-482A-81A6-66045A42121E@hortonworks.com> <9B3A14B5-A0D4-4AB3-A916-187AF993152B@hortonworks.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:24:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DesignLounge @ HadoopSummit From: Konstantin Shvachko To: "hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org" Cc: Eric Baldeschwieler Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158be44d323f404dfef8c7b X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --089e0158be44d323f404dfef8c7b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Should we talk about making HDFS operations idempotent in the spirit of HDFS-4849 and HDFS-4872? Physical discussions may be more efficient, which can save us jira writing time. I can work on a short summary of what was discussed so far, proposed approaches. Thanks, --Konstantin On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Suresh Srinivas wr= ote: > FYI HDFS committers and developers... This will be participant-driven > unconference style session. > > So no formal presentations are planned. Some of the things that we could > discuss are: > - New features recently added to HDFS such as HA, Snapshots, NFS etc. > - Other features that we as a community could focus on - such as > heterogeneous storage/support SSDs, improvements for more realtime > applications in HDFS. > > If you have other topic in mind, please do bring them up. > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Eric Baldeschwieler > Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:32 PM > Subject: DesignLounge @ HadoopSummit > To: "common-dev@hadoop.apache.org" , " > mapreduce-dev@hadoop.apache.org" , " > hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org" > > > Hi Folks, > > I've integrated the feedback I've gotten on the design lounge. A couple = of > clarifications: > > 1) The space will be open both days of the formal summit. Apache > Committers / contributors are invited to stop by any time and use the spa= ce > to meet / network any time during the show. > > 2) Below I've listed the times that various project members have suggeste= d > they will be present to talk with others contributors about their project= . > If we get a big showing for any of these slots we'll encourage folks to = do > the unconference thing: Select a set of topics they want to talk about an= d > break up into groups to do so. > > 3) This is an experiment. Our goal is to make the summit as useful as > possible to the folks who build the Apache projects in the Apache Hadoop > stack. Please let me know how it works for you and ideas for making this > even more effective. > > Committed times so far, with topic champion (Note - I've adjusted suggest= ed > times to fit with the program a bit more smoothly): > > Wednesday > 11-1 - Hive - Ashutosh - The stinger initiative and other Hive activities > 2 - 4 - Security breakout - Kevin Minder - HSSO, Knox, Rhino > 3 - 4 - Frameworks to run services like HBase on Yarn - Weave, Hoya =85 - > Devaraj Das > 4 - 5 - Accumulo - Billie Rinaldi > > > Thursday > 11-1 - Finishing Yarn - Arun Murthy - Near term improvements needed > 2 - 4 - HDFS - Suresh & Sanjay > 4 - 5 - Getting involved in Apache - Billie Rinaldi > > > See you all soon! > > E14 > > PS Please forward to other Apache -dev lists and CC me. Thanks! > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Eric Baldeschwieler > wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > We thought we'd try something new at Hadoop Summit this year to build > upon two pieces of feedback I've heard a lot this year: > > > > =95 Apache project developers would like to take advantage of the > Hadoop summit to meet with their peers to on work on specific technical > details of their projects > > =95 That they want to do this during the summit, not before it st= arts > or at night. I've been told BoFs and other such traditional formats have > not historically worked for them, because they end up being about educati= ng > users about their projects, not actually working with their peers on how = to > make their projects better. > > So we are creating a space in the summit - marked in the event guide as > DesignLounge - concurrent with the presentation tracks where Apache Proje= ct > contributors can meet with their peers to plan the future of their projec= t > or work through various technical issues near and dear to their hearts. > > > > We're going to provide white boards and message boards and let folks ta= ke > it from there in an unconference style. We think there will be room for > about 4 groups to meet at once. Interested? Let me know what you think. > Send me any ideas for how we can make this work best for you. > > > > The room will be 231A and B at the Hadoop Summit and will run from > 10:30am to 5:00pm on Day 1 (26th June), and we can also run from 10:30am = to > 5:00pm on Day 2 (27th June) if we have a lot of topics that folk want to > cover. > > > > Some of the early topics some folks told me they hope can be covered: > > > > =95 Hadoop Core security proposals. There are a couple of detail= ed > proposals circulating. Let's get together and hash out the differences. > > =95 Accumulo 1.6 features > > =95 The Hive vectorization project. Discussion of the design and= how > to phase it in incrementally with minimum complexity. > > =95 Finishing Yarn - what things need to get done NOW to make Yar= n > more effective > > If you are a project lead for one of the Apache projects, look at the > schedule below and suggest a few slots when you think it would be best fo= r > your project to meet. I'll try to work out a schedule where no more than= 2 > projects are using the lounge at once. > > > > Day 1, 26th June: 10:30am - 12:30pm, 1:45pm - 3:30pm, 3:45pm - 5:00pm > > > > Day 2, 27th June: 10:30am - 12:30pm, 1:45pm - 3:30pm, 3:45pm - 5:00pm > > > > It will be up to you, the hadoop contributors, from there. > > > > Look forward to seeing you all at the summit, > > > > E14 > > > > PS Please forward to the other -dev lists. This event is for folks on > the -dev lists. > > > > > > > -- > http://hortonworks.com/download/ > --089e0158be44d323f404dfef8c7b--