Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9D9A98DD for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54147 invoked by uid 500); 23 Mar 2012 17:04:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hdfs-dev-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 54080 invoked by uid 500); 23 Mar 2012 17:04:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact hdfs-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 54071 invoked by uid 99); 23 Mar 2012 17:04:04 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:04:04 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_RDNS_DOTCOM_HELO,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: 98.139.253.104 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daryn@yahoo-inc.com) Received: from [98.139.253.104] (HELO mrout1-b.corp.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.253.104) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:03:57 +0000 Received: from SP1-EX07CAS04.ds.corp.yahoo.com (sp1-ex07cas04.corp.sp1.yahoo.com [216.252.116.155]) by mrout1-b.corp.bf1.yahoo.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/y.out) with ESMTP id q2NH345f051666 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:03:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=yahoo-inc.com; s=cobra; t=1332522184; bh=L7Ud1/kUA8gmQwpKp4KJ/YzuQ40/Gj/RlBXYtqJC7xw=; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; b=Ma6rlZIhfOxfiW67uaLr96liVjHXYMl1bBYZri1BALmLFnKzXk0jLsK4lroKPMje1 SKLAIKStie7uPXwPvhOgzHdFGDWG0YOgTiPLgsSVFnNpWfB62+EMo0PkHGmjLx8rhn sgGWtUV4hJKutU4ew/t8Nxe/0OdgNmv2PKt4E/sg= Received: from SP1-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com ([216.252.116.135]) by SP1-EX07CAS04.ds.corp.yahoo.com ([216.252.116.158]) with mapi; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:03:03 -0500 From: Daryn Sharp To: "hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org" Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:03:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Remove append? Thread-Topic: [DISCUSS] Remove append? Thread-Index: Ac0JFs9mAJNUXV87SZ2tneRhIhj+Lw== Message-ID: References: <1332461012.65143.YahooMailNeo@web65905.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I think Yarn/MR might be able to benefit from the ability to append to logs= in hdfs. It might reduce some of the after-the-fact copying of logs into = hdfs. Daryn On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Dhruba Borthakur wrote: > I think "append" would be useful. But not precisely sure which applicatio= ns > would use it. I would vote to keep the code though and not remove it. >=20 > -dhruba >=20 > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Eli Collins wrote: >=20 >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Tsz Wo Sze wrote: >>> @Eli, Removing a feature would simplify the design and code. I think >> this is a generally true statement but not specific to Append. The >> question is whether Append is useless and it should be removed? I think= it >> is clear from this email thread that the answer is no. >>=20 >> @Nicholas, no one is saying append is "useless and should be removed." >> The discussion is perhaps a little more subtle than you've understood >> it to be. >>=20 >> If there are a lot of good use cases I'm all for it, I just don't see >> downstream projects using it any time soon (which is not to say they >> don't want it, just that they can't depend on something not in 1.x), >> and I haven't seen much demand. I wanted to hear from others if they >> had. When I brought it up with a room of hdfs developers from 3 >> different companies no one felt strongly. And so far only a handful of >> people have chimed in, I actually thought more would. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Eli >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Subscribe to my posts at http://www.facebook.com/dhruba