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From Robert Evans <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>
Subject Re: Spinning out Hadoop Eclipse Tools
Date Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:19:25 GMT
Thanks for pointing that out Chris.  I am kind of new to the whole
incubator thing.  How would one go about making such a request to be part
of the IPMC?

--Bobby

On 9/28/12 6:06 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)"
<chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

>Hi Adam,
>
>Thanks. One thing to note that is to be an Incubator podling mentor, the
>mentor needs
>to be a member of the IPMC. Typically these are ASF members, but it's not
>a hard requirement
>for them to be.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
>On Sep 28, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Adam Berry wrote:
>
>> Awesome! Thank you Eli!
>> 
>> And before, I did mean mentor when I said sponsor. Sponsor seems to
>>normally be the incubator pmc.
>> 
>> So we have three mentors, which seems to be the normal amount from
>>digging around the incubation stuff.
>> 
>> I realize its a big ask, but that just leaves the champion slot open.
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Eli Collins wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Adam,
>>> 
>>> I'd be happy to mentor as well.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eli
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Adam Berry <amberry@yahoo-inc.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So at this point, I definitely have Chris and Bobby who are willing
>>>>to mentor.
>>>> 
>>>> Arun, would you be willing to be the third sponsor?
>>>> 
>>>> And then, could one of you guys take up being the champion?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Adam
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Chris A Mattmann wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd be willing to be a mentor for the project, let me think about
>>>>>being the Champion :)
>>>>> Either way, count me on the mentoring team!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Adam Berry wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, I've been drafting the proposal, and once I have a rough one
>>>>>>I'll post it here for feedback before taking it to the incubation
>>>>>>lists.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've had offers of involvement, which is also great.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> @Chris, would you be willing to be the champion for this project
>>>>>>and also a mentor?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> @Everyone, that would leave two mentor slots left to fill, anyone
>>>>>>else willing to throw their hat in for this? I would like to have
>>>>>>that information in the proposal as soon as possible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Adam Berry wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The positive feedback is really encouraging, so thanks everyone!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> @Chris, thanks for the links, I will make a start on going through
>>>>>>>that material and preparing the proposal. Thank you for the offer
>>>>>>>of help, I'll be taking you up on that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is there anyone else who is also interested in committing to
this?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Eric Baldeschwieler wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> +1 to spinning it out and +1 for just starting to work with
>>>>>>>>incubator as chris outlines.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Once that is up and the code here can be removed as redundant.
>>>>>>>>Folks might object to that, but I highly doubt it given this
>>>>>>>>thread.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:46 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)"
>>>>>>>><chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1 this seems like a great idea!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here's a guide to creating an Apache Incubator proposal:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You'll need 3 ASF members to be your mentors, 1 of which
whom
>>>>>>>>> is willing to be your Champion (the person that takes
leadership
>>>>>>>>> of shepherding you guys through the Incubator).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to help out in this effort however I can. I
had a
>>>>>>>>>great experience
>>>>>>>>> mentoring the MRUnit folks and they have done a great
job!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Eli Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Adam,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That would be awesome.   +1
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We've discussed moving the various contrib projects
out of
>>>>>>>>>>Hadoop in
>>>>>>>>>> the past, and think it make sense for all the reasons
you
>>>>>>>>>>mention.  A
>>>>>>>>>> good example of how we've done this  was done previously
is
>>>>>>>>>>MRUnit,
>>>>>>>>>> now hosted at http://mrunit.apache.org.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Next steps, if others agree then you can draft a
proposal to
>>>>>>>>>>vote on.
>>>>>>>>>> See this thread and jira for an example:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201102.mb
>>>>>>>>>>ox/%3C77405974-6771-4604-926B-976240743F3C@mac.com%3E
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-2430
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Eli
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Adam Berry
>>>>>>>>>><amberry@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing spinning out the eclipse plugin
from the main
>>>>>>>>>>>hadoop source into a separate incubating project.
I'm willing
>>>>>>>>>>>to commit to this effort.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> With a separate project, that isn't tied (source
wise) to the
>>>>>>>>>>>Hadoop source we could make dev tools that could
support
>>>>>>>>>>>multiple versions of Hadoop from within a single
IDE, which
>>>>>>>>>>>would be very helpful when migrating jobs or dealing
with
>>>>>>>>>>>clusters running different versions.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The current tools seem to support the 0.20 line,
and help with
>>>>>>>>>>>developing MR jobs, and also have some HDFS tools
included. So
>>>>>>>>>>>the early work would be to ensure that these features
were
>>>>>>>>>>>supported across the version space of Hadoop.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Down the line we could also add support for additional
tools
>>>>>>>>>>>such as MRUnit and other products in the Hadoop
ecosystem, to
>>>>>>>>>>>eventually yield a one stop project for all dev
tools around
>>>>>>>>>>>this space.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If there is agreement on this, how do we go about
getting it
>>>>>>>>>>>done?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Berry
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>>>>> WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089
USA
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>Senior Computer Scientist
>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>


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