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From Nael Mohammad <linuxwo...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Choosing a Hadoop distribution
Date Fri, 21 Sep 2012 06:05:43 GMT
Just recently VMWARE announced Project Serengeti which is an open source 
OVA based on Apache Hadoop with HDFS, MapReduce, Pig, and Hive to name 
few. It requires vSphere I believe to use the OVA.


http://serengeti.cloudfoundry.com/

GitHub source:
https://github.com/vmware-serengeti


-nael

On 9/20/12 10:44 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> I would add a couple more points to your consideration (may be this is just
> me):
>    - vendor lock-in:
>      
>      - when you pick a software make sure that you'd be able to move over to a
>        different (yet similar) product offering if you need to.  You are asking
>        about CHD's CM here: I don't think it would work with anything else but
>        CDH (I am not working there, so I don't know for sure - but it seems
>        line a reasonable assumption).
>      
>      - HW's HDP is providing Ambari for the cluster management needs, that is a
>        completely open source technology that you can master if needed and most
>        likely use with other stack based on Hadoop (as far as I can see).
>
>      - MapR has quite a bit of proprietary components in their stack, which
>        might be beneficial in your particular case or not: this is something
>        you have to decide for yourself.
>
>    - what are the road-map of possible distributions? Do they have what you
>      need in the future? The case in the point is these guys
>          http://www.magnatempusgroup.net/blog/2012/09/05/whats-cooking/
>      who are seemingly bringing in in-memory analytics in their upcoming
>      release. You might want to follow a big Hadoop conference next month,
>      that's likely to have a number of interesting announcements (otherwise,
>      what would be the point of such conference ;)
>
> These two would be a pivotal points for me. Hope it helps,
>    Cos
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:17AM, hadoop wrote:
>> I Have the same question.
>> Which version ,Which vender do we choose?
>>
>>
>> --
>> hadoop
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>>
>> On 2012年9月21日Friday at 上午2:22, Aaron Eng wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm tasked with creating a guide that instructs on how to choose a Hadoop
>>>   
>>> distribution from the handful of common options.
>>>> Does anyone have any thoughts on what criteria might govern such a
>>>   
>>> decision?
>>>   
>>> What problem(s) are you trying to solve with Hadoop (and related projects)?
>>> What are your expectations of the technology?
>>>   
>>> The details beyond that level could take many, many pages to cover.
>>>   
>>> Not all Hadoop distributions are tested the same way, packaged with the
>>> same components, etc. Not all components of a given Hadoop distribution
>>> work with other Hadoop distributions. There are a lot of common things
>>> between distributions which is probably why its difficult to articulate how
>>> to choose one over the another. So when you look at the problem you are
>>> trying to solve and your expectations of the technology, many things may
>>> seem relatively equal and hence you may need to get into some significant
>>> level of detail to pick something that best solves your problem. In some
>>> cases it may be very straightforward as to whether a distribution will meet
>>> your requirements. In other cases, things may look relatively equal across
>>> the board until you drill down to a point where you find differentiation
>>> (or maybe you dont find it). But those would be my critera, articulate the
>>> problem and expectations and compare functionality until you find
>>> differentiation.
>>>   
>>>   
>>>   
>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Keith Wiley <kwiley@keithwiley.com (mailto:kwiley@keithwiley.com)>
wrote:
>>>   
>>>> I'm tasked with creating a guide that instructs on how to choose a Hadoop
>>>> distribution from the handful of common options. I'm finding this rather
>>>> perplexing. While some of the venders offer additional management software
>>>> (Cloudera Manager is an example) I'm unclear whether those packages could
>>>> be installed and run irregardless of the underlying Hadoop distribution or
>>>> if they are exclusively compatible with their vender's distribution (or if
>>>> there's some crossover). I'm also unclear on any other basis for
>>>> comparison. For example HortonWorks originated HCatalog (to the best of my
>>>> understanding), but that doesn't necessarily mean one needs to use the HW
>>>> Hadoop dist. to use HCatalog since it's just a public Apache project anyway
>>>> at this point. I'm sure similar statements could be made about MapR or
>>>> Greenplum (although I thin Greenplum's Hadoop uses MapR's M5 anyway so
>>>> again, the decision-making process in such a case seems baffling).
>>>>   
>>>> And then there's the option of installing the Apache version directly,
>>>> always on the table I suppose.
>>>>   
>>>> Does anyone have any thoughts on what criteria might govern such a
>>>> decision? I'm not trying to get into an argument about which distribution
>>>> is best, I'm not even looking for defenses or arguments for one
>>>> distribution or another, but rather a notion of what the criteria for
>>>> basing such a decision might be.
>>>>   
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>   
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>   
>>>>   
>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________
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(http://keithwiley.com)
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>>>>   
>>>> "It's a fine line between meticulous and obsessive-compulsive and a
>>>> slippery
>>>> rope between obsessive-compulsive and debilitatingly slow."
>>>> -- Keith Wiley
>>>>   
>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________


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