From general-return-5310-apmail-hadoop-general-archive=hadoop.apache.org@hadoop.apache.org Thu Aug 16 18:27:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38C06D861 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 65183 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2012 18:27:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 64929 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2012 18:27:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 64919 invoked by uid 99); 16 Aug 2012 18:27:32 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:27:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.220.176] (HELO mail-vc0-f176.google.com) (209.85.220.176) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:27:26 +0000 Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so3379243vcb.35 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:27:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=BYVXZRvslzuROz/0hNYAc3NzvDxiPrXqh2uLfaWA+c4=; b=iUCNoOSqZHQi/5sgn1PUUg6TsgDkaRLWsTQI1SHKRJE6x9VdAjQCM5vYA27W6mKlnA iPuM31NSijd3pim117CdD7EVN/AoG198g29mLSG66h/1i3Jsvbl6ajXGMfoUAFbINvqI RLb7NK+NV6jkg0xQyzt8MFEly7u/cRvoaGnEKdPQQPlNzZ8kuNWkjvlG3U83lEORp5SQ E14arsKInZTm/hbwED5N5IAsWVQ0hpNscZYDFna0GluHwwt/k1qPrgixHQnqoNGiP//6 zbV0IqoTK/ex6nX3FUimv6qpHPsnUkP/xfZOZlrq8c1t4JODJqRseI8rD2Ip2Fw9bumn wr9w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.100.165 with SMTP id ez5mr800728vdb.108.1345141625251; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.65.17 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:27:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7CEACB69-C26A-49A7-8612-9C3B068F083D@hortonworks.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:27:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] - Establish YARN as a sub-project of Apache Hadoop From: Suresh Srinivas To: general@hadoop.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3063dc03bee8fd04c76630ef X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlJFnLAYUDdZKCsLaRgwjxsz/M2UJVVTqm/hBSDdgz3mj026vMudNocHVt96oxP9EZqygyq X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --20cf3063dc03bee8fd04c76630ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +1 for Arun's proposal. It seems reasonable to me. Here are my thoughts on this thread: Some have voiced opinion that they would not have supported YARN becoming a sub-project if they knew committer list is going to change. YARN was voted as a sub-project on the merit of it being a distinct functionality from rest of existing Hadoop. Your vote for YARN becoming a sub-project should have nothing to do with the commiter list. A team of people have worked for a long time (more than 1.5 years) on YARN. They understand the code and the design context well enough to be committers. I am not sure how having a long inclusive list of committers helps YARN. Do we expect the folks who have not contributed to YARN and might not understand YARN code well enough to do a good job as committers? That is the reason why I do not mind not being included in the list of committers. Further Arun has been more inclusive by incorporating Tom's feedback. We, as the Hadoop PMC, decided to vote committers to sub-projects instead of whole of Hadoop. To ensure someone who works heavily on one sub-project from committing code the core parts of other sub-projects. Why do we want to make an exception for YARN? People interested in becoming committers can always contribute to YARN and become committers anytime. It is not like the list is closed forever. Regards, Suresh --20cf3063dc03bee8fd04c76630ef--